1969 Super Camper rear end question.... - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**steveimpala** · 10-06-2017, 12:24 AM

Just recently purchased a 1969 C20 Custom Camper, it has the 350V8 with a Turbo 400 transmission... manual brakes all around, 16" tires. The code in the glove box is calling out "G86 No Spin R Axle R " , what type of rear / gear ratio would be this be ?

Thanks !

Bigdav160 · 10-06-2017, 06:12 AM

I am pretty sure the G86 option was for the detroit locker unit in you eaton axle.

If no gear ratio is mentioned on the SPID the 4.10:1 was standard

yuccales · 10-06-2017, 08:13 AM

Great looking truck. Put up some more pictures. Welcome to this site, good info, good people here!

**steveimpala** · 10-06-2017, 09:37 AM

Thanks for the information.... the truck was stored in a warehouse in Washington State near Spokane, all original except for one respray. Very clean on the bottom side, no rust issues to speak of...probably going to change the exhaust back to factory, don't care too much of it exiting under the bumper...

**FleetsidePaul** · 10-06-2017, 10:00 AM

Welcome to the board. Nice truck. Wish mine looked as good it's the same color (Well sort of. It's a lot of colors at the moment)

Shaky · 10-06-2017, 02:28 PM

Beautiful truck.

It's an "Eaton" HO72 or HO52. Here's a good thread with a lot of pics:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ighlight=eaton

I think there's another thread around with some good info. Let me look...

**steveimpala** · 10-06-2017, 05:12 PM

Great..... Thanks for the information, I appreciate !

**Steeveedee** · 10-06-2017, 09:51 PM

Nice looking truck! Do you mean "Custom Camper"? If you post a pic of the SPID on the glove box door, the worthies here can fill you in on what it all means. You may want to cover the serial number to avoid theft issues.

**steveimpala** · 10-07-2017, 01:25 AM

Yes, I must have Super Sport on my mind....lol
Here you go....

**special-K** · 10-07-2017, 07:36 AM

Your rear, as mentioned, is an HO52 (HO72s came in C/30s), ratio is 4.10, the No-Spin is GM's name for a Detroit Locker. Without the Camper Nameplate option tour emblem would be CST/20. The heavy springs and equalizer were required options to allow the Camper nameplate.

**steveimpala** · 10-07-2017, 08:54 AM

Thanks !!

**steveimpala** · 10-07-2017, 09:08 AM

The rear step bumper on this truck, was this a factory option or a aftermarket that the dealership installed ? Are they still available ?

Thanks

**special-K** · 10-07-2017, 09:20 AM

Step bumpers are kinda funny. Yes, that is a factory step bumper. No, it is not on the SPID. Yes, all bumpers were an option. In this era most states were just getting into requiring safety inspections for trucks. So, my guess they are an afterthought that dealers installed. They were an extra cost option. It maybe be that some were from factory and on the SPID. I'm a little cloudy on all this from memory. But that is the bumper GM offered through '71. I remember people complaining about dealers sticking them with that extra, when they had become required.

**steveimpala** · 10-07-2017, 01:11 PM

Thanks again for the info !

factorystock · 10-07-2017, 01:44 PM

Nice, truck! The stance is perfect! That bumper is the better "drop" type from frame. Some later aftermarkets are not the drop style and come much too close to the body sheet metal.

**Joesjunk** · 10-07-2017, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K

Step bumpers are kinda funny. Yes, that is a factory step bumper. No, it is not on the SPID. Yes, all bumpers were an option. In this era most states were just getting into requiring safety inspections for trucks. So, my guess they are an afterthought that dealers installed. They were an extra cost option. It maybe be that some were from factory and on the SPID. I'm a little cloudy on all this from memory. But that is the bumper GM offered through '71. I remember people complaining about dealers sticking them with that extra, when they had become required.

His SPID lists V43 rear step bumper eq, and that looks like the factory bumper?

**steveimpala** · 10-07-2017, 02:48 PM

The reason why I was asking about the rear step bumper is that mine was damaged while being transported from Washington State to my home here in NY...long story....basically, it was twisted and the body shop will not be able to fix it. I like the look of the step bumper, my options would be to find another one or replace it with a non step bumper ( chrome ) that would match the front bumper.... are these rear step bumper still out there ?

Thanks

MACO · 10-08-2017, 11:15 PM

I really like your truck, it my trucks twin! Funny thing is my truck came from Portland Oregon so our trucks were from the same area. My tuck had a step bumper that would slide out to accommodate different size campers. I have taken it off and replaced with the standard bumper and and no longer need it. The thing weighs a ton.

**steveimpala** · 10-09-2017, 12:05 AM

That is really cool.... must of been a common color back in '69.....you have the same interior like mine ?

Steve

MACO · 10-09-2017, 12:20 AM

Mine is brown. Interior looks good either way. When I bought this truck I wasn't necessarily looking for the color but it was a nice truck so I went for it. The color has really grown on me.

**steveimpala** · 10-09-2017, 12:49 AM

Very nice, I like it.......

**steveimpala** · 10-09-2017, 12:53 AM

Maco - is your truck a single or dual exhaust system?? I want to change mine to a factory look, I don't care too much on how the exhaust exits under the rear bumper...

MACO · 10-09-2017, 01:38 AM

Mine is a dual exhaust out the side. Magnaflow mufflers with stock manifolds. Fairly loud but not obnoxious. Funny story, first time my wife went for a drive in my truck was a really hot day and I still need to fix the A/C so the windows were down. She turns to me and said is there something wrong or is the truck suppose to sound like this?

**steveimpala** · 10-09-2017, 02:14 AM

LOL......that's on my next to do list on the truck !

10-06-2017, 12:24 AM	#1
steveimpala Active Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Wappingers Falls, NY Posts: 122	1969 Super Camper rear end question.... Just recently purchased a 1969 C20 Custom Camper, it has the 350V8 with a Turbo 400 transmission... manual brakes all around, 16" tires. The code in the glove box is calling out "G86 No Spin R Axle R " , what type of rear / gear ratio would be this be ? Thanks ! Attached Images Last edited by steveimpala; 10-07-2017 at 02:50 PM.

10-06-2017, 06:12 AM	#2
Bigdav160 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Klein Texas Posts: 3,852	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... I am pretty sure the G86 option was for the detroit locker unit in you eaton axle. If no gear ratio is mentioned on the SPID the 4.10:1 was standard __________________ My Classics: '72 K20 Suburban + '65 Dodge Town Wagon '72 Corvette Roadster +'67 Corvette Roadster '73 Z-28 Camaro '63 Ford SWB Uni Pickup '50 Ford Coupe

10-06-2017, 08:13 AM	#3
yuccales Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: Northern Calif. Posts: 3,777	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... Great looking truck. Put up some more pictures. Welcome to this site, good info, good people here!

10-06-2017, 09:37 AM	#4
steveimpala Active Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Wappingers Falls, NY Posts: 122	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... Thanks for the information.... the truck was stored in a warehouse in Washington State near Spokane, all original except for one respray. Very clean on the bottom side, no rust issues to speak of...probably going to change the exhaust back to factory, don't care too much of it exiting under the bumper... Attached Images

10-06-2017, 10:00 AM	#5
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10-06-2017, 02:28 PM	#6
Shaky Six in a row makes it go... Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vacationland: Maine Posts: 1,346	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... Beautiful truck. It's an "Eaton" HO72 or HO52. Here's a good thread with a lot of pics: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ighlight=eaton I think there's another thread around with some good info. Let me look... __________________ 67 C20 long step resto: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342086 66 C10 long step build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post3814790 CT to Alaska in a 67 C10: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=399224 “The height of sophistication is simplicity." - Clare Boothe Luce

10-06-2017, 05:12 PM	#7
steveimpala Active Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Wappingers Falls, NY Posts: 122	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... Great..... Thanks for the information, I appreciate !

10-06-2017, 09:51 PM	#8
Steeveedee Who Changed This? Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 10,724	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... Nice looking truck! Do you mean "Custom Camper"? If you post a pic of the SPID on the glove box door, the worthies here can fill you in on what it all means. You may want to cover the serial number to avoid theft issues. __________________ ~Steven '70 Chevy 3/4T Longhorn CST 402/400/3.56 Custom Camper Simi Valley, CA

10-07-2017, 01:25 AM	#9
steveimpala Active Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Wappingers Falls, NY Posts: 122	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... Yes, I must have Super Sport on my mind....lol Here you go.... Attached Images

10-07-2017, 07:36 AM	#10
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... Your rear, as mentioned, is an HO52 (HO72s came in C/30s), ratio is 4.10, the No-Spin is GM's name for a Detroit Locker. Without the Camper Nameplate option tour emblem would be CST/20. The heavy springs and equalizer were required options to allow the Camper nameplate. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

10-07-2017, 08:54 AM	#11
steveimpala Active Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Wappingers Falls, NY Posts: 122	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... Thanks !!

10-07-2017, 09:08 AM	#12
steveimpala Active Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Wappingers Falls, NY Posts: 122	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... The rear step bumper on this truck, was this a factory option or a aftermarket that the dealership installed ? Are they still available ? Thanks Attached Images

10-07-2017, 09:20 AM	#13
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... Step bumpers are kinda funny. Yes, that is a factory step bumper. No, it is not on the SPID. Yes, all bumpers were an option. In this era most states were just getting into requiring safety inspections for trucks. So, my guess they are an afterthought that dealers installed. They were an extra cost option. It maybe be that some were from factory and on the SPID. I'm a little cloudy on all this from memory. But that is the bumper GM offered through '71. I remember people complaining about dealers sticking them with that extra, when they had become required. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

10-07-2017, 01:11 PM	#14
steveimpala Active Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Wappingers Falls, NY Posts: 122	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... Thanks again for the info !

10-07-2017, 01:44 PM	#15
factorystock Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: west coast Posts: 3,396	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... Nice, truck! The stance is perfect! That bumper is the better "drop" type from frame. Some later aftermarkets are not the drop style and come much too close to the body sheet metal.



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10-07-2017, 02:48 PM	#17
steveimpala Active Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Wappingers Falls, NY Posts: 122	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... The reason why I was asking about the rear step bumper is that mine was damaged while being transported from Washington State to my home here in NY...long story....basically, it was twisted and the body shop will not be able to fix it. I like the look of the step bumper, my options would be to find another one or replace it with a non step bumper ( chrome ) that would match the front bumper.... are these rear step bumper still out there ? Thanks

10-08-2017, 11:15 PM	#18
MACO Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: British Columbia CANADA Posts: 118	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... I really like your truck, it my trucks twin! Funny thing is my truck came from Portland Oregon so our trucks were from the same area. My tuck had a step bumper that would slide out to accommodate different size campers. I have taken it off and replaced with the standard bumper and and no longer need it. The thing weighs a ton. Attached Images __________________ 1969 C20 Customer Camper CST, 396, TH400, Factory A/C, Olive Green.

10-09-2017, 12:05 AM	#19
steveimpala Active Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Wappingers Falls, NY Posts: 122	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... That is really cool.... must of been a common color back in '69.....you have the same interior like mine ? Steve

10-09-2017, 12:20 AM	#20
MACO Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: British Columbia CANADA Posts: 118	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... Mine is brown. Interior looks good either way. When I bought this truck I wasn't necessarily looking for the color but it was a nice truck so I went for it. The color has really grown on me. Attached Images __________________ 1969 C20 Customer Camper CST, 396, TH400, Factory A/C, Olive Green.

10-09-2017, 12:49 AM	#21
steveimpala Active Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Wappingers Falls, NY Posts: 122	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... Very nice, I like it.......

10-09-2017, 12:53 AM	#22
steveimpala Active Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Wappingers Falls, NY Posts: 122	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... Maco - is your truck a single or dual exhaust system?? I want to change mine to a factory look, I don't care too much on how the exhaust exits under the rear bumper...

10-09-2017, 01:38 AM	#23
MACO Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: British Columbia CANADA Posts: 118	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... Mine is a dual exhaust out the side. Magnaflow mufflers with stock manifolds. Fairly loud but not obnoxious. Funny story, first time my wife went for a drive in my truck was a really hot day and I still need to fix the A/C so the windows were down. She turns to me and said is there something wrong or is the truck suppose to sound like this? Attached Images __________________ 1969 C20 Customer Camper CST, 396, TH400, Factory A/C, Olive Green.

10-09-2017, 02:14 AM	#24
steveimpala Active Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Wappingers Falls, NY Posts: 122	Re: 1969 Super Camper rear end question.... LOL......that's on my next to do list on the truck !

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