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imdarren · 11-11-2003, 01:52 AM

Please Please
OK This is a 72 4X4 3/4 ton with a bent x-member.
I need to know exactly what type of donor truck I have to get get a new cross member from.
Does it have to be 3/4 ton? 4X4? Both?
When I'm up to speed on exactly what I need, I'll move to the parts board and see if someone could cut one out of an old frame and send to me.

Thanks a bunch!

P.S. NO. I don't know what bent it. It was like that when I bought the truck.

Darren

imdarren · 11-11-2003, 01:58 AM

Here is kind of a funky photo of the bed swap I just did.
The 72 GMC 2WD is the donor. It sold it 2 weeks ago.
I took the bed off it before I sold it cuz it had a canopy on it all it's life. Not even one small dent on the inside. I put it on the 72 Cheyenne Super 4X4 I just bought.

Darren

jorgensensc · 11-11-2003, 02:04 AM

That bend is on all of the trucks, look at mine:

imdarren · 11-11-2003, 02:14 AM

I hope your joking?
If your not . . . . Are you the original owner, and don't remember backing into anything? At least when you were sober?:p

Darren

**Canadian694x4** · 11-11-2003, 02:16 AM

I didn't know that...funny cause mines so bent it's missing...lol

jorgensensc · 11-11-2003, 02:22 AM

For real!!!!! All I've seen have tat same bend, unless I'm smokin' crack and don't know it. I'm not the oriinal owner, but the vehicle hasn't been wrecked. I looked at other trucks in the Junkyard and they are the same. Look at some posts here with under bed tank installs. Maybe I'm wrong..... and we all have messed up rears!!!

imdarren · 11-11-2003, 02:36 AM

WoW! That is funny!
Now you have me really curious!
I was just up visiting PICKMUP up in Olympia last weekend.
I looked at at least 3 frames while I was up there (cuz i was going to try and buy a new x-member from him) and all his were streight. This is VERY interesting.
Hope someone can help shed some light on this . . . . . .

Darren

jorgensensc · 11-11-2003, 02:39 AM

Hopefully somebody can tell us!!! They all appear to be bent in exactly the same spot. Maybe the factory did this on some trucks for some reason???

bpmcgee · 11-11-2003, 02:50 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if that were factory. After all, it matches the bend in the front crossmember.

Brian

jose · 11-11-2003, 03:01 AM

All the ones i've seen are bent . Darren is that you shown of your legs in the first picture ?

**Canadian694x4** · 11-11-2003, 03:08 AM

Imdarren's looks too be a little more bent then jorgensensc's...maybe?

jorgensensc · 11-11-2003, 03:10 AM

It might be a little more bent, I don't know.

ZOOMY · 11-11-2003, 07:31 AM

Why don't you put it in a press & straighten it. I just sandblasted one & it is straight.(2WD).......Zoomy

lost wages · 11-11-2003, 10:16 AM

all the shortbed trucks i have had were pretty straight, heres the one i sold not to long ago.

ljbear · 11-11-2003, 01:29 PM

I just looked at mine. The first is a 69 SWB 1/2 2wd and the second is a 71 SWB 1/2 ton 4x4. Both are straight. I'd try and straighten it before I pulled it out.

skyhawk1 · 11-11-2003, 01:31 PM

Just went out and looked at mine on the lwb 4wd, it's straight.

jose · 11-11-2003, 01:40 PM

Darren you need to measure across on your frame/box mounting holes and see if they match up with your box . If they don't maybe it is bent .

Cheesewagon · 11-11-2003, 02:29 PM

Just went out and looked at mine, straigth as can be. I've got a '72 1/2 ton lwb.

jorgensensc · 11-11-2003, 02:44 PM

My bed mount holes line up perfectly.... This is very very odd!!!

ljbear · 11-11-2003, 02:54 PM

Are the frame rails parallel? Measure across the rails in front of the cross member and near the rear. If the bed mounts line up and the bumpers work it may just be a variation from GM plants.

J.Lance · 11-11-2003, 03:55 PM

all the ones I have seen are straight. f.y.i. I believe this cross member is the same for 1/2 and 3/4 4wd. Not sure about the 2wd because the frame actually flares a little wider in the back than the 4wd. Maybe take a measurement side to side before you make your request.

imdarren · 11-12-2003, 12:41 AM

jorgensensc,
I'm confused too.
My bed holes line up perfect.
The back bumper lines up great.
The frame rails seem streight.
If I try and streighten it while it's in the frame, will it bend the frame rails out?
I could understand if it was bent back, like someone tried to tow or pull another rig with it. But it's bent forward!
What the He!! is that about?

I'm thinking I should just try and find someone with a 3/4 ton 4x4 with a frame to be scrapped, and have them cut out that peice I need and send it to me and compare it to the one I have.
Speak up if you can get me a frame cross member.

darren

11-11-2003, 01:52 AM	#1
imdarren Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SW Washington Posts: 1,006	Frame Identification Help Please Please OK This is a 72 4X4 3/4 ton with a bent x-member. I need to know exactly what type of donor truck I have to get get a new cross member from. Does it have to be 3/4 ton? 4X4? Both? When I'm up to speed on exactly what I need, I'll move to the parts board and see if someone could cut one out of an old frame and send to me. Thanks a bunch! P.S. NO. I don't know what bent it. It was like that when I bought the truck. Darren Attached Images __________________ Washington State 1967 Chevy C10 LWB Rodstoration In Progress. 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super

11-11-2003, 01:58 AM	#2
imdarren Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SW Washington Posts: 1,006	Here is kind of a funky photo of the bed swap I just did. The 72 GMC 2WD is the donor. It sold it 2 weeks ago. I took the bed off it before I sold it cuz it had a canopy on it all it's life. Not even one small dent on the inside. I put it on the 72 Cheyenne Super 4X4 I just bought. Darren Attached Images __________________ Washington State 1967 Chevy C10 LWB Rodstoration In Progress. 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super

11-11-2003, 02:04 AM	#3
jorgensensc Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cypress, Tx Posts: 4,005	That bend is on all of the trucks, look at mine: Attached Images __________________ 1972 C20 Suburban- Big Blue Betty '56 Chevy Bel Air Sedan- Frame up Restoration -What would you attempt to achieve if you knew you could not fail?- -I Refuse To Tiptoe Through Life, Only To Arrive Safely At Death's Door- R.I.P. EAST SIDE LOW LIFE

11-11-2003, 02:14 AM	#4
imdarren Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SW Washington Posts: 1,006	I hope your joking? If your not . . . . Are you the original owner, and don't remember backing into anything? At least when you were sober?:p Darren __________________ Washington State 1967 Chevy C10 LWB Rodstoration In Progress. 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super

11-11-2003, 02:16 AM	#5
Canadian694x4 Born To Lose Club Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta/Oxenden, Ontario, Great White North Posts: 13,307	I didn't know that...funny cause mines so bent it's missing...lol __________________ Brian Smith - "Born To Lose" 1969 Chevrolet K10 LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 22 Yrs - 1 of 208 Built & Sold In Canada!- 283 V8/350TH/NP208, 2" All Spring Lift, 32" Good Year MT/R's. 1972 GMC K2500 Custom LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 3 Yrs - 1 of 571 Built & Sold In Canada! - 350 V8/SM465/NP205, 4” Rough Country Lift, 33” Interco TSL Thornbirds 2007.5 GMC Sierra SLE 2500HD 4x4 - Proud Owner For 17 Yrs- 6.6L V8 Duramax Diesel/Allison 1000, 2" Lift, 33" Mickey Thompson MTZ's. 2008 Yamaha Raptor 700r - Proud Owner For 15 Yrs - ITP Mud Lites. 2015 John Deere 1025R - Proud Owner For 8 Yrs - 24HP Diesel/H120/54D/260B/SB1154.

11-11-2003, 02:22 AM	#6
jorgensensc Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cypress, Tx Posts: 4,005	For real!!!!! All I've seen have tat same bend, unless I'm smokin' crack and don't know it. I'm not the oriinal owner, but the vehicle hasn't been wrecked. I looked at other trucks in the Junkyard and they are the same. Look at some posts here with under bed tank installs. Maybe I'm wrong..... and we all have messed up rears!!! __________________ 1972 C20 Suburban- Big Blue Betty '56 Chevy Bel Air Sedan- Frame up Restoration -What would you attempt to achieve if you knew you could not fail?- -I Refuse To Tiptoe Through Life, Only To Arrive Safely At Death's Door- R.I.P. EAST SIDE LOW LIFE

11-11-2003, 02:36 AM	#7
imdarren Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SW Washington Posts: 1,006	WoW! That is funny! Now you have me really curious! I was just up visiting PICKMUP up in Olympia last weekend. I looked at at least 3 frames while I was up there (cuz i was going to try and buy a new x-member from him) and all his were streight. This is VERY interesting. Hope someone can help shed some light on this . . . . . . Darren __________________ Washington State 1967 Chevy C10 LWB Rodstoration In Progress. 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super

11-11-2003, 02:39 AM	#8
jorgensensc Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cypress, Tx Posts: 4,005	Hopefully somebody can tell us!!! They all appear to be bent in exactly the same spot. Maybe the factory did this on some trucks for some reason??? __________________ 1972 C20 Suburban- Big Blue Betty '56 Chevy Bel Air Sedan- Frame up Restoration -What would you attempt to achieve if you knew you could not fail?- -I Refuse To Tiptoe Through Life, Only To Arrive Safely At Death's Door- R.I.P. EAST SIDE LOW LIFE

11-11-2003, 02:50 AM	#9
bpmcgee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 2,181	I wouldn't be surprised if that were factory. After all, it matches the bend in the front crossmember. Brian

11-11-2003, 03:01 AM	#10
jose Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Salem , Oregon 97301 Posts: 1,796	All the ones i've seen are bent . Darren is that you shown of your legs in the first picture ? __________________ 68 GMC 4x4 SWB jose6772@yahoo.com

11-11-2003, 03:08 AM	#11
Canadian694x4 Born To Lose Club Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta/Oxenden, Ontario, Great White North Posts: 13,307	Imdarren's looks too be a little more bent then jorgensensc's...maybe? __________________ Brian Smith - "Born To Lose" 1969 Chevrolet K10 LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 22 Yrs - 1 of 208 Built & Sold In Canada!- 283 V8/350TH/NP208, 2" All Spring Lift, 32" Good Year MT/R's. 1972 GMC K2500 Custom LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 3 Yrs - 1 of 571 Built & Sold In Canada! - 350 V8/SM465/NP205, 4” Rough Country Lift, 33” Interco TSL Thornbirds 2007.5 GMC Sierra SLE 2500HD 4x4 - Proud Owner For 17 Yrs- 6.6L V8 Duramax Diesel/Allison 1000, 2" Lift, 33" Mickey Thompson MTZ's. 2008 Yamaha Raptor 700r - Proud Owner For 15 Yrs - ITP Mud Lites. 2015 John Deere 1025R - Proud Owner For 8 Yrs - 24HP Diesel/H120/54D/260B/SB1154.

11-11-2003, 03:10 AM	#12
jorgensensc Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cypress, Tx Posts: 4,005	It might be a little more bent, I don't know. __________________ 1972 C20 Suburban- Big Blue Betty '56 Chevy Bel Air Sedan- Frame up Restoration -What would you attempt to achieve if you knew you could not fail?- -I Refuse To Tiptoe Through Life, Only To Arrive Safely At Death's Door- R.I.P. EAST SIDE LOW LIFE

11-11-2003, 07:31 AM	#13
ZOOMY Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: WIS Posts: 1,752	x-member Why don't you put it in a press & straighten it. I just sandblasted one & it is straight.(2WD).......Zoomy

11-11-2003, 10:16 AM	#14
lost wages Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: jefferson city, mo Posts: 1,364	all the shortbed trucks i have had were pretty straight, heres the one i sold not to long ago. Attached Images

11-11-2003, 01:29 PM	#15
ljbear Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Emmett, Idaho Posts: 858	I just looked at mine. The first is a 69 SWB 1/2 2wd and the second is a 71 SWB 1/2 ton 4x4. Both are straight. I'd try and straighten it before I pulled it out. __________________ Larry 72 Chevy SWB 4x4 71 Chevy SWB 4x4 My Work Truck "Don't confuse enthusiasm with capability"



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11-11-2003, 01:31 PM	#16
skyhawk1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Oceana WV USA Posts: 184	Just went out and looked at mine on the lwb 4wd, it's straight. __________________ "The World's a Mess"! 71 C-10 72 Suburban 2WD Oceana, West Virginia

11-11-2003, 01:40 PM	#17
jose Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Salem , Oregon 97301 Posts: 1,796	Darren you need to measure across on your frame/box mounting holes and see if they match up with your box . If they don't maybe it is bent . __________________ 68 GMC 4x4 SWB jose6772@yahoo.com

11-11-2003, 02:29 PM	#18
Cheesewagon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Perrysburg, Ohio, USA Posts: 409	Just went out and looked at mine, straigth as can be. I've got a '72 1/2 ton lwb. __________________ '91 suburban 350 TBI - R 700 4 new daily driver '72 Cheyenne Super 49,000miles 350/350 frame up resto w/ matching numbers.

11-11-2003, 02:44 PM	#19
jorgensensc Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cypress, Tx Posts: 4,005	My bed mount holes line up perfectly.... This is very very odd!!! __________________ 1972 C20 Suburban- Big Blue Betty '56 Chevy Bel Air Sedan- Frame up Restoration -What would you attempt to achieve if you knew you could not fail?- -I Refuse To Tiptoe Through Life, Only To Arrive Safely At Death's Door- R.I.P. EAST SIDE LOW LIFE

11-11-2003, 02:54 PM	#20
ljbear Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Emmett, Idaho Posts: 858	Are the frame rails parallel? Measure across the rails in front of the cross member and near the rear. If the bed mounts line up and the bumpers work it may just be a variation from GM plants. __________________ Larry 72 Chevy SWB 4x4 71 Chevy SWB 4x4 My Work Truck "Don't confuse enthusiasm with capability"

11-11-2003, 03:55 PM	#21
J.Lance Too many is never enough! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Idaho Falls, ID Posts: 455	straight all the ones I have seen are straight. f.y.i. I believe this cross member is the same for 1/2 and 3/4 4wd. Not sure about the 2wd because the frame actually flares a little wider in the back than the 4wd. Maybe take a measurement side to side before you make your request. __________________ Jason 1968 K10 SWB Fleetside 1971 K2500 GMC LWB 1968 K20 (later frame, donor body) 1972 C20 LWB parts truck 1993 K2500 Suburban, tow rig, 454, 4L80E NEW!! 18' Siem's car hauler 2004 Honda Odyssey (family man!)

11-12-2003, 12:41 AM	#22
imdarren Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SW Washington Posts: 1,006	jorgensensc, I'm confused too. My bed holes line up perfect. The back bumper lines up great. The frame rails seem streight. If I try and streighten it while it's in the frame, will it bend the frame rails out? I could understand if it was bent back, like someone tried to tow or pull another rig with it. But it's bent forward! What the He!! is that about? I'm thinking I should just try and find someone with a 3/4 ton 4x4 with a frame to be scrapped, and have them cut out that peice I need and send it to me and compare it to the one I have. Speak up if you can get me a frame cross member. darren __________________ Washington State 1967 Chevy C10 LWB Rodstoration In Progress. 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super

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