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SunSoaked · 07-26-2018, 12:55 PM

My 85 has OEM non-tilt automatic column with cruise. Does not have pulse wipers. I'm getting ready to swap the pedal assembly as part of the 4500 swap. I have an 85 column from a manual trans c30.
Questions:
Is swapping the turn signal stalk from cruise to non-cruise a straight-forward swap?
I want to add the pulse wiper. Is that just using the correct stalk and some type of module somewhere between the stalk and the motor?

**hatzie** · 07-27-2018, 09:48 AM

Delay needs the correct switch and the module at the bottom of the column. The cab wiring plugs into either the delay module or plain ol wiper switch plug. Delay switches are easier to find.

The stalk is just a lever to run the turn switch and a cam to run the wiper switch. The actual switches are buried in the column.

A cruise stalk will have cruise switches in the stalk with a pigtail for the cruise switches that gets dragged through the column to the cruise harness.

SunSoaked · 07-27-2018, 10:00 AM

As always, thanks hatzie.

SunSoaked · 07-27-2018, 01:06 PM

It appears that a non-tilt, manual column with pulse wipers is as rare as hens teeth. What is it about the 84-87 trucks that the wiper switches are only available for tilt column?

SunSoaked · 07-27-2018, 01:14 PM

Maybe I spoke too soon. Just found this. Definitely not cheap.

74CustomK20 · 07-27-2018, 10:28 PM

Maybe cheaper to find a complete auto column n swap some pieces around?

SunSoaked · 07-30-2018, 10:28 AM

Ya, good point. However, I'd still like to end up with a tilt column.
Is it possible to combine parts from my 85 manual column with a 91 auto tilt to end up with a tilt, manual column? If so, I don't mind paying for new parts for the pulse wipers. No desire for cruise.

07-26-2018, 12:55 PM	#1
SunSoaked Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Yuma Arizona Posts: 1,525	Steering column conversion question My 85 has OEM non-tilt automatic column with cruise. Does not have pulse wipers. I'm getting ready to swap the pedal assembly as part of the 4500 swap. I have an 85 column from a manual trans c30. Questions: Is swapping the turn signal stalk from cruise to non-cruise a straight-forward swap? I want to add the pulse wiper. Is that just using the correct stalk and some type of module somewhere between the stalk and the motor?

07-27-2018, 09:48 AM	#2
hatzie Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wentworth, NH Posts: 5,020	Re: Steering column conversion question Delay needs the correct switch and the module at the bottom of the column. The cab wiring plugs into either the delay module or plain ol wiper switch plug. Delay switches are easier to find. The stalk is just a lever to run the turn switch and a cam to run the wiper switch. The actual switches are buried in the column. A cruise stalk will have cruise switches in the stalk with a pigtail for the cruise switches that gets dragged through the column to the cruise harness. __________________ 1959 M35A2 LDT465-1D SOLD 1967 Dodge W200 B383, NP420/NP201 SOLD 1969 Dodge Polara 500 B383, A833 SOLD 1972 Ford F250 FE390, NP435/NP205 SOLD 1976 Chevy K20, 6.5L, NV4500/NP208 SOLD 1986 M1008 CUCV SOLD 2000 GMC C2500, TD6.5L, NV4500 2005 Chevy Silverado LS 2500HD 6.0L 4L80E/NP263 2009 Impala SS LS4 V8 RTFM... GM Parts Books, GM Schematics, GM service manuals, and GM training materials... 1973-1991 GM Light Truck Service, Unit/Overhaul, Wiring Manuals, Parts Books and Some 1968-1999 GM Service Training textbooks in PDF 1988-1998 GMT400 CK service manual project 1988-1993 GMT400 CK parts books. 1967-1972 GM Light, Medium, & Heavy Truck Service Manuals in PDF Please include at least the year and model in your threads. It'll be easier to answer your questions. And please let us know if and how your repairs were successful.

07-27-2018, 10:00 AM	#3
SunSoaked Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Yuma Arizona Posts: 1,525	Re: Steering column conversion question As always, thanks hatzie.

07-27-2018, 01:06 PM	#4
SunSoaked Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Yuma Arizona Posts: 1,525	Re: Steering column conversion question It appears that a non-tilt, manual column with pulse wipers is as rare as hens teeth. What is it about the 84-87 trucks that the wiper switches are only available for tilt column?

07-27-2018, 01:14 PM	#5
SunSoaked Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Yuma Arizona Posts: 1,525	Re: Steering column conversion question Maybe I spoke too soon. Just found this. Definitely not cheap. Attached Images

07-27-2018, 10:28 PM	#6
74CustomK20 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tell City, IN Posts: 637	Re: Steering column conversion question Maybe cheaper to find a complete auto column n swap some pieces around? __________________ Big Nate Carp. Local 224. Buy made in the USA! 03 F350 6.0 Daily Race Truck. 79 C70 366 Project Dump.

07-30-2018, 10:28 AM	#7
SunSoaked Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Yuma Arizona Posts: 1,525	Re: Steering column conversion question Ya, good point. However, I'd still like to end up with a tilt column. Is it possible to combine parts from my 85 manual column with a 91 auto tilt to end up with a tilt, manual column? If so, I don't mind paying for new parts for the pulse wipers. No desire for cruise.



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