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Russell · 11-17-2003, 09:43 PM

Ok, I found out that my horn isn't shorting out in the column... I can't see any obvious shorts, and hints of things to be looking at? Even with all my column horn stuff taken out, the horn still goes off after putting a fuse in...

This is really bugging me, and I don't wanna trace every single wire till I find the problem...

messed up c-10 · 11-17-2003, 10:05 PM

Not to steal the post or anything but I have a similar problem. I think my horn went out when my clock and radio did too. Where do these three come together? I'm thinking I might have a fuse blown out somewhere but I cant find it.

Russell · 11-17-2003, 10:08 PM

Its in the fuse box. My stereo and horn were on the same connection as well. I would guess thats where it fused togther on me.

messed up c-10 · 11-18-2003, 02:10 PM

I checked the fuses in the fuse box and I couldn't find a blown one, but I'll look again to make sure.

cochino12 · 11-18-2003, 02:21 PM

maybe run a new wire straight to the horn?

bpmcgee · 11-18-2003, 05:18 PM

Russell,

I can't imagine that the short would be any place OTHER than the column. The circuit runs from the fuse to the column, then to the horns.

To break it down, if the horn blows, it MUST be getting voltage. This could be either through the horn circuit, or a second hot wire shorted with the horn circuit between the column switch and the horn. But if this were the case, the horn would be blowing constantly, even if the horn fuse were removed.

Have you tried pulling the connector that connects the column harness (i.e. the turn signal) to the rest of the car? I'll BET that if you do that, the problem goes away.

If I'm right, I think there's a problem with the turn signal harness. I would suggest replacing the signal -- they usually run around $30. The wires for everything at the top of the column are part of this switch.

Brian

Russell · 11-18-2003, 08:11 PM

Hmm... Thats a good possiblity, I'll pull the rest of the column apart tonight, I need to take it off to straighten my steering wheel out anyways. I'll also replace that little plastic peice that I hot glued together earlier while I am at it...

BobbyK · 12-28-2003, 03:53 AM

The horn blows when grounded.there is constant power to the horn relay.Horn blows when the relay is grounded,completeing the circut.
Take a jumper wire,ground it then take the other end and touch the ground terminal on the horn relay.The horn should blow.
You'll then know it's the ground wire that runs up the coloum.

That's a little easier than disassembling your steering coloum.:p

Russell · 12-28-2003, 09:50 PM

Hehe, thanks for the advice, but I figured this out out a little while ago

It was actually the horn relay at fault, the little metal strip had fused itself together, so I just took the relay apart and reset it filing it down a little bit, no problems since

11-17-2003, 09:43 PM	#1
Russell Professional Grade Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta Posts: 7,915	Horn short, help! Ok, I found out that my horn isn't shorting out in the column... I can't see any obvious shorts, and hints of things to be looking at? Even with all my column horn stuff taken out, the horn still goes off after putting a fuse in... This is really bugging me, and I don't wanna trace every single wire till I find the problem... __________________ 1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap)

11-17-2003, 10:05 PM	#2
messed up c-10 RHCP afficianado Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McLoud, OK Posts: 789	Not to steal the post or anything but I have a similar problem. I think my horn went out when my clock and radio did too. Where do these three come together? I'm thinking I might have a fuse blown out somewhere but I cant find it. __________________ ~Ryan~ 89 S-10 Blazer with a 4.3L 96 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6L V8. This car rocks. Here are some links to some good music. Jack Johnson Donavon Frankenreiter

11-17-2003, 10:08 PM	#3
Russell Professional Grade Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta Posts: 7,915	Its in the fuse box. My stereo and horn were on the same connection as well. I would guess thats where it fused togther on me. __________________ 1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap)

11-18-2003, 02:10 PM	#4
messed up c-10 RHCP afficianado Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: McLoud, OK Posts: 789	I checked the fuses in the fuse box and I couldn't find a blown one, but I'll look again to make sure. __________________ ~Ryan~ 89 S-10 Blazer with a 4.3L 96 Ford Crown Vic P71 4.6L V8. This car rocks. Here are some links to some good music. Jack Johnson Donavon Frankenreiter

11-18-2003, 02:21 PM	#5
cochino12 It followed me home? Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Yup Posts: 5,751	maybe run a new wire straight to the horn? __________________ Adam That's why they call it a shortcut Kyle, if it was easy it would just be the way. 86 c-10 SWB 85 CCSB 90 GMC K30 Crew SRW 1985 C30 Dually

11-18-2003, 05:18 PM	#6
bpmcgee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 2,181	Russell, I can't imagine that the short would be any place OTHER than the column. The circuit runs from the fuse to the column, then to the horns. To break it down, if the horn blows, it MUST be getting voltage. This could be either through the horn circuit, or a second hot wire shorted with the horn circuit between the column switch and the horn. But if this were the case, the horn would be blowing constantly, even if the horn fuse were removed. Have you tried pulling the connector that connects the column harness (i.e. the turn signal) to the rest of the car? I'll BET that if you do that, the problem goes away. If I'm right, I think there's a problem with the turn signal harness. I would suggest replacing the signal -- they usually run around $30. The wires for everything at the top of the column are part of this switch. Brian

11-18-2003, 08:11 PM	#7
Russell Professional Grade Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta Posts: 7,915	Hmm... Thats a good possiblity, I'll pull the rest of the column apart tonight, I need to take it off to straighten my steering wheel out anyways. I'll also replace that little plastic peice that I hot glued together earlier while I am at it... __________________ 1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap)

12-28-2003, 03:53 AM	#8
BobbyK Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Petrolia,Ontario,Canada but working in Port Huron,Mi. Posts: 1,772	The horn blows when grounded.there is constant power to the horn relay.Horn blows when the relay is grounded,completeing the circut. Take a jumper wire,ground it then take the other end and touch the ground terminal on the horn relay.The horn should blow. You'll then know it's the ground wire that runs up the coloum. That's a little easier than disassembling your steering coloum.:p __________________ 71 blazer,350SBC,approx.375HP,700R4,factory GM TPI.Dual electric fans,33x12.5x15 ATR on stock suspension. Petrolia,Ontario,Canada but working in Port Huron,MI. See ALL my Blazer pic's HERE

12-28-2003, 09:50 PM	#9
Russell Professional Grade Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta Posts: 7,915	Hehe, thanks for the advice, but I figured this out out a little while ago It was actually the horn relay at fault, the little metal strip had fused itself together, so I just took the relay apart and reset it filing it down a little bit, no problems since __________________ 1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap)



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