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04-19-2019, 11:03 AM | #1 |
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Carrier Bearing bracket '71 Suburban
I'm looking for a bracket to mount a saddle mount carrier bearing instead of the pedestal type carrier bearing. I have had issues with the cheap pedestal bearing mounts cracking, since I have lowered it.
Anyone know where I can get a bracket? Thanks for any input. Last edited by jbchevy3; 04-19-2019 at 11:48 AM. |
04-19-2019, 02:37 PM | #2 |
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Re: Carrier Bearing bracket '71 Suburban
1/2 ton or 3/4 ton?
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04-19-2019, 02:47 PM | #3 |
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Re: Carrier Bearing bracket '71 Suburban
1/2 ton 2wd
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04-19-2019, 03:02 PM | #4 |
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Re: Carrier Bearing bracket '71 Suburban
Leaf or coil springs?
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04-19-2019, 09:39 PM | #5 |
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Re: Carrier Bearing bracket '71 Suburban
coil springs
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04-19-2019, 10:45 PM | #6 |
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Re: Carrier Bearing bracket '71 Suburban
Sorry for all the questions but they will make answering easier. The factory 1/2 ton coil spring driveline must move forward and aft as the rear axle moves up and down when going over bumps. This movement is absorbed by the yoke at the transmission. The yoke at the transmission is longer to allow for this movement. The factory carrier bearing rubber ring flexes with the movement. When a truck is lowered many times the rubber is constantly pushed beyond its design limit and that can cause the bracket to fail. Not to mention the lower quality of the aftermarket units available today would not pass GM's quality standards.
A 3/4 ton coil spring truck has a different style of driveline. The aft section has a splined slide that allows the for and aft movement to be absorbed there. The carrier bearing is much more robust and it holds the forward piece of the driveline solidly with very little movement. The 1/2 ton style is cheaper to install which is why GM used it but it is not up to the task on a heavily loaded truck starting from a dead stop on a hill. So a more robust system was needed. The same was true of leaf spring trucks. When the axle wraps up the springs it causes more movement than a 1/2 ton coil spring carrier can handle. If you convert to the 3/4 ton carrier bearing without using the 3/4 ton style drive shaft it is likely you will continue to break the carrier bearing. The low cost method would be to add addtional welds a new carrier mount to make it stouter. When you installing it you need to have the truck sitting on the wheels at ride height. Then when you install the carrier the rubber bushing must be at rest. It cannot be preloaded in one direction. The carried mount holes may have to be elongated. If you are running air bags then I would recommend using an aftermarket billet style carrier and having a slider installed on the aft section of the driveline. Here are photos of the driveline I converted my C10 Burban to and the one I removed. There is more information if you are interested in my WMB thread below pages 13 & 14. I hope this helps.
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04-20-2019, 09:47 AM | #7 |
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Re: Carrier Bearing bracket '71 Suburban
Thank you for the detailed response, very good.
I have replaced the driveshaft, with a spline shaft on the rear driveshaft behind the carrier bearing. The problem is, with it lowered (air ride), the stock type stamped cheap pedestal mount bearings, the metal bracket will not hold up under an increased drive shaft angle. I am aware of the billet aluminum like you have. I just thought the saddle type would be stronger. I had seen on other post, a saddle mount bracket. I think I am going to just make my own bracket, and try the saddle type carrier bearing mount. The driveshaft I ordered from PST Shafts, has a larger 1.378 ID bearing, instead of the 1.18 which is stock. |
04-20-2019, 10:22 AM | #8 |
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Re: Carrier Bearing bracket '71 Suburban
This is the new splined rear shaft in the top picture, the bottom picture is something I found on the internet, which is what I am looking for.
Last edited by jbchevy3; 04-20-2019 at 10:23 AM. Reason: added photo comments |
04-20-2019, 02:49 PM | #9 |
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Re: Carrier Bearing bracket '71 Suburban
That looks like a good solution. I unfortunately don't have a bracket for you, but it isn't much more than a piece of angle iron with some holes in it. Since your new bearing is likely to have a different bolt pattern personally I would just make my own. Otherwise i wouldn't think it would be hard to find one in the classified section. Check into the C20 part outs.
And if I haven't said so earlier. Welcome aboard! Looking forward to photos!
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04-20-2019, 06:43 PM | #10 |
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Re: Carrier Bearing bracket '71 Suburban
Thanks, I’ve been working on making my own bracket, I used 1/4” thick steel, I don’t want it to break again lol!
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04-21-2019, 09:49 PM | #11 |
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Re: Carrier Bearing bracket '71 Suburban
Good work!
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11-11-2020, 10:18 PM | #12 |
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Re: Carrier Bearing bracket '71 Suburban
Jbchevy3,
Nice bracket I need to fab one would it be possible to send me some pics from the other side of the crossmember and maybe a couple from the sides. Thanks so much! Steve |
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