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BassDucksnTrucks · 07-01-2019, 12:01 PM

Hey everyone, long time reader, haven't posted much.

Anyway--have a '72 k10 swb cheyenne super, and one of the two previous owners, when he repainted it, apparently swapped the SPID to match the paint color--which he changed from an olive and white to a forest green/white combo.

Anyway, I have looked places to research the matching VIN's on the frame/door which are one digit off from the SPID VIN, but haven't had any luck.

Is there a good resource to do a VIN search? Every site online is giving me a "no record found".

Thanks!

**HO455** · 07-01-2019, 08:07 PM

Sorry to say I do not believe there is good place for trying to match a VIN to a SPID. Which digit is off on between the SPID and the VIN?

**jocko** · 07-02-2019, 08:47 AM

Recommend post pics of truck, metal VIN tag, and SPID.

BassDucksnTrucks · 07-02-2019, 01:29 PM

Should have specified. It's more than one digit off, but the SPID says CCE, when VIN is CKE...the veh serno is off by a lot more than one digit. Guy who had the truck before me, bought it from the original owner. Motor was rebuilt professionally, but some basic wrench work the guy before me did was shotty...timing off, new 2 core radiator instead of 4 core, wrong year rear bumper swap. Anyway--matching VINs on original dealer tag(i have at home), door/plate and frame, but either the first dingus or the second dingus swapped the SPID, which infuriates me. Here are a few pics.

BassDucksnTrucks · 07-02-2019, 01:32 PM

Here's interior and engine, prior to installing new master cylinder, new radiator and new radiator fan/shroud.

**jocko** · 07-02-2019, 01:48 PM

SPID is likely an original from a different (and 2WD) white/dark olive deluxe two tone Cheyenne Super. My paranoid inner self says a lower trim medium olive K10 has been repainted to match the C10 Cheyenne Super SPID in hopes nobody would catch the CC vs CK discrepancy - to pass it off as a Cheyenne Super. Glovebox door has been painted med olive over dark olive at some point, likely to make it less obviously stick out in the original medium olive K10 interior. Will look closer tonight. Could be something much less nefarious... Have a bright tailgate cover handle? Headliner? Have you checked for a build beer under the seat? Keep in mind seat may also have come from the glovebox door donor - along with the other interior trim.

At the very least, this is not a typo on SPID, it’s not a repop SPID, and it’s not a 4x4 truck VIN on the SPID - it is not this truck’s SPID. If it were a body swap, metal VIN would match SPID. If no build sheet to help solve the puzzle, there no way to know if this truck was born a Cheyenne Super other than conjecture. Sorry, am guessing this is not what you were expecting to hear.

BassDucksnTrucks · 07-02-2019, 02:05 PM

Yeah--that's what I was worried about. Would be a helluva job, if indeed it was. Had a local guy who has about 30 of these trucks look it over pretty heavily and he had me freaked out at the beginning, then after further inspection, he was convinced is was a cheyenne super as well, just baffled at the SPID swap. Told me to see what I could do to research VIN--exhausted all possibilities on the google machine so figured I'd ask here...

**Grumpy old man** · 07-02-2019, 02:27 PM

You can see the glove box has been painted with the over spray on the spid ,So are you upset that you paid for a super or just that someone changed the glove box door ?

BassDucksnTrucks · 07-02-2019, 02:30 PM

Not too sure your question. Still convinced it's a Super, but maybe the fella who inspected it for me, who has bought and sold over 50 67-72's, who had nothing to do with the seller, 5 years ago, was wrong?

It would just be nice to have a matching SPID is all.

BassDucksnTrucks · 07-02-2019, 02:36 PM

Chrome tailgate handle cover and the headliner has been removed, but has original holes where it previously was....

**jocko** · 07-02-2019, 02:45 PM

Likely originally a medium olive K10 Cheyenne if remnants of headliner exist. Beyond that, no proof it’s a Super. If your inspector missed that the SPID was for a 2WD truck, I’d disregard pretty much everything he said... (2nd clue is that he also told you to research the VIN - which tells nothing about trim level).

BassDucksnTrucks · 07-02-2019, 02:49 PM

He didn't miss the SPID discrepancy, he was the one who actually pointed it out, had me read off sticker/plaque/frame VIN's--which match. Gonna tear the thing apart to get to the bottom of it. He just told me to look into the VIN to see what info I could gather, if any.

What would "build a beer" be under the seat that I could look for?

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Originally Posted by jocko

Likely originally a medium olive K10 Cheyenne if remnants of headliner exist. Beyond that, no proof it’s a Super. If your inspector missed that the SPID was for a 2WD truck, I’d disregard pretty much everything he said... (2nd clue is that he also told you to research the VIN - which tells nothing about trim level).

BassDucksnTrucks · 07-02-2019, 03:05 PM

I appreciate all the info though--I've learned a lot.

**jocko** · 07-02-2019, 10:15 PM

Ha, fat thumbs and an iphone are a deadly combo... Sorry for the autocorrect typo... If the build sheet

is still under the seat -and- the seat is from the donor Super, it would just match the SPID you have - no real help. If the build sheet is under the seat -and- it's the seat from the original K10, you could easily determine how the truck was born and get the original, correct SPID reproduced by member Jeff at outintheshop.

07-01-2019, 12:01 PM	#1
BassDucksnTrucks Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Roseville, California Posts: 15	Old VIN search Hey everyone, long time reader, haven't posted much. Anyway--have a '72 k10 swb cheyenne super, and one of the two previous owners, when he repainted it, apparently swapped the SPID to match the paint color--which he changed from an olive and white to a forest green/white combo. Anyway, I have looked places to research the matching VIN's on the frame/door which are one digit off from the SPID VIN, but haven't had any luck. Is there a good resource to do a VIN search? Every site online is giving me a "no record found". Thanks!

07-01-2019, 08:07 PM	#2
HO455 Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 11,030	Re: Old VIN search Sorry to say I do not believe there is good place for trying to match a VIN to a SPID. Which digit is off on between the SPID and the VIN? __________________ Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban (the WMB),1988 S10 Blazer (the Stink10 II),1969 GTO (the Goat), 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford OHC six 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird (the DBP Bird). 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377

07-02-2019, 08:47 AM	#3
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,958	Re: Old VIN search Recommend post pics of truck, metal VIN tag, and SPID.

07-02-2019, 01:29 PM	#4
BassDucksnTrucks Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Roseville, California Posts: 15	Re: Old VIN search Should have specified. It's more than one digit off, but the SPID says CCE, when VIN is CKE...the veh serno is off by a lot more than one digit. Guy who had the truck before me, bought it from the original owner. Motor was rebuilt professionally, but some basic wrench work the guy before me did was shotty...timing off, new 2 core radiator instead of 4 core, wrong year rear bumper swap. Anyway--matching VINs on original dealer tag(i have at home), door/plate and frame, but either the first dingus or the second dingus swapped the SPID, which infuriates me. Here are a few pics. Last edited by BassDucksnTrucks; 07-02-2019 at 04:46 PM.

07-02-2019, 01:32 PM	#5
BassDucksnTrucks Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Roseville, California Posts: 15	Re: Old VIN search Here's interior and engine, prior to installing new master cylinder, new radiator and new radiator fan/shroud. Attached Images

07-02-2019, 01:48 PM	#6
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,958	Re: Old VIN search SPID is likely an original from a different (and 2WD) white/dark olive deluxe two tone Cheyenne Super. My paranoid inner self says a lower trim medium olive K10 has been repainted to match the C10 Cheyenne Super SPID in hopes nobody would catch the CC vs CK discrepancy - to pass it off as a Cheyenne Super. Glovebox door has been painted med olive over dark olive at some point, likely to make it less obviously stick out in the original medium olive K10 interior. Will look closer tonight. Could be something much less nefarious... Have a bright tailgate cover handle? Headliner? Have you checked for a build beer under the seat? Keep in mind seat may also have come from the glovebox door donor - along with the other interior trim. At the very least, this is not a typo on SPID, it’s not a repop SPID, and it’s not a 4x4 truck VIN on the SPID - it is not this truck’s SPID. If it were a body swap, metal VIN would match SPID. If no build sheet to help solve the puzzle, there no way to know if this truck was born a Cheyenne Super other than conjecture. Sorry, am guessing this is not what you were expecting to hear. Last edited by jocko; 07-02-2019 at 02:42 PM.

07-02-2019, 02:05 PM	#7
BassDucksnTrucks Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Roseville, California Posts: 15	Re: Old VIN search Yeah--that's what I was worried about. Would be a helluva job, if indeed it was. Had a local guy who has about 30 of these trucks look it over pretty heavily and he had me freaked out at the beginning, then after further inspection, he was convinced is was a cheyenne super as well, just baffled at the SPID swap. Told me to see what I could do to research VIN--exhausted all possibilities on the google machine so figured I'd ask here...

07-02-2019, 02:27 PM	#8
Grumpy old man Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Gods country East,Tn Posts: 8,545	Re: Old VIN search You can see the glove box has been painted with the over spray on the spid ,So are you upset that you paid for a super or just that someone changed the glove box door ? __________________ 1967 Factory short bed - Old school '71 - 350 / 4bolt / 487 heads / Edelbrock C3BX Muncie M-22 4 speed / Hurst Comp plus Factory 12 bolt posi 3.73 / 255-70-15 Smoothed firewall / Factory cowl induction Power disc brakes / power steering / 3.5-5" drop

07-02-2019, 02:30 PM	#9
BassDucksnTrucks Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Roseville, California Posts: 15	Re: Old VIN search Not too sure your question. Still convinced it's a Super, but maybe the fella who inspected it for me, who has bought and sold over 50 67-72's, who had nothing to do with the seller, 5 years ago, was wrong? It would just be nice to have a matching SPID is all.

07-02-2019, 02:36 PM	#10
BassDucksnTrucks Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Roseville, California Posts: 15	Re: Old VIN search Chrome tailgate handle cover and the headliner has been removed, but has original holes where it previously was....

07-02-2019, 02:45 PM	#11
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,958	Re: Old VIN search Likely originally a medium olive K10 Cheyenne if remnants of headliner exist. Beyond that, no proof it’s a Super. If your inspector missed that the SPID was for a 2WD truck, I’d disregard pretty much everything he said... (2nd clue is that he also told you to research the VIN - which tells nothing about trim level).

07-02-2019, 03:05 PM	#13
BassDucksnTrucks Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Roseville, California Posts: 15	Re: Old VIN search I appreciate all the info though--I've learned a lot.

07-02-2019, 10:15 PM	#14
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,958	Re: Old VIN search Ha, fat thumbs and an iphone are a deadly combo... Sorry for the autocorrect typo... If the build sheet is still under the seat -and- the seat is from the donor Super, it would just match the SPID you have - no real help. If the build sheet is under the seat -and- it's the seat from the original K10, you could easily determine how the truck was born and get the original, correct SPID reproduced by member Jeff at outintheshop.



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