1967 original survivor

[arcticman]

Some one in the area should go check this out and let us know if its the real deal? Is it worth 12,900 if it is what they claim?

https://gainesville.craigslist.org/c...955921300.html

[MusicMan70]

Beautiful Truck and looks right to me. Would love to see more of the engine compartment and the V6.

[special-K]

Well, it's not what they claim. It's a Fenderside not a Stepside . A GMC guy should know that. Anyway, it sure does appear to be a true low mile survivor and by what I see people asking for the varied 67-72s out there I would say, Yes it's worth that if any of them are worth what's being asked today. I always look for original and value them more than what someone has put together. It's more than twice as nice as what I see go for half as much or more... as far as untouched originals go

[arcticman]

I think maybe they cleaned up the interior. looks like a new floor matt possibly recovered the seat. (although that is the original pattern.) notice how the fawn color extends out the windshield post? door weatherstrip looks very nice for 62

[weq92f]

Originally Posted by arcticman

I think maybe they cleaned up the interior....

Yeah...That door jam area is looking rather like it just rolled off the assembly line...

Could be legit though if those miles are real.

-klb

['68OrangeSunshine]

Originally Posted by arcticman

I think maybe they cleaned up the interior. looks like a new floor matt possibly recovered the seat. (although that is the original pattern.) notice how the fawn color extends out the windshield post? door weatherstrip looks very nice for 62

'67 MY they just blasted the whole interior with wall-to-wall Fawn. Dash and glove box look right for a GMC.
Looks like a Georgia Peach. $12,9 Large is a bit rich for me, but it's a seller's market right now.
I paid $1,200 for my '68 C/10 Stepside, but that was in 1973. The Dollar has inflated since then.

[factorystock]

Originally Posted by MusicMan70

Beautiful Truck and looks right to me. Would love to see more of the engine compartment and the V6.

Me too! Interior looks low mileage for sure! Engine compartment, engine and underframe shots would help in making a definitive answer to mileage claims. My bet it has the 250 straight six, and should have rear leaf springs and Dana 44 axle.

[arcticman]

I think it has the GMC big block 305 V6

[special-K]

That would make this truck so insanely cool if it did. But I doubt it is. Why do you think it does? I would think the seller would have said V6 and not just 6cyl. And, from what I can see it appears to be a no option truck, not that an engine option couldn't be the only one.

There is no big block/small block when it comes to GMC V6s. The 305 is the baby of those as far as displacement goes. I don't know how this trend of calling them big blocks got going recently, but I see it said a lot. It's like saying a big block Pontiac 455, same block as 350. It's a good trend to see run into the ground. Makes a person sound like they don't know their stuff.

[MusicMan70]

I emailed the seller and asked if it was a V6 and requested photos, but have yet to hear back from him.

[68panelman]

In for pics too, hopefully he'll respond to you music man
Gotta feeling it's an inline though. As far as the "big block V6" term is concerned, I'm sure it's because of the 4.25" bore the 305 has.

[KevinK7]

Cool looking truck, ...and I agree that interior looks really clean (ed?). None-the-less if it's that low mileage and rust free as claimed, price is up there, but may fetch close to that...

['68OrangeSunshine]

If we saw the VIN, we'd nail it.
CS, KS = L6
CE, KE = V8
CM, KM = V6

Special K -- I sometimes think of the 292 as the Big Block of the L6 world. But I'm partial.
Were the GMC V6s bored from the same size block, just different bores and/or strokes, or was the 351 a larger block?

[68Gold/white]

GMC made a real big version of that V-6, something like 478 cublic inches, thay used in their medium duty trucks, THAT would be cool in a half ton!!!

[special-K]

The V6s share the same block and the 305 is the baby. It was simply referred to as the 305 until the V8 came out. But still, GMC 305 says it all. Put one next to a small block Chevy and you'll call it a huge block.

This flipper is gong for all the money. If it was truly found still sitting in a barn I bet he paid more like half that. If the seller out of yje batn knew what these trucks were worth he would have sold it a long time ago

[71gmcC15]

Gmc allso made a 702 v12. It was basically two 351 put together.

[BLAZERMAN]

I believe every word he says and dont see one thing to contradict his statements. A lot of guys trying to flip that truck would have went nuts with the white rattle can paint job on the grille, bumpers and wheels. Im glad he left it just as found and I think that 52 year old wood bed floor tells the story of just how well this truck has survived.

[Kw69]

Wow nice truck, I live an hour from there! Maybe able to meet up with him this week. I can let you guys know. If I do I will try to get all the info I can for you. I’m on shift a lot this week and if we get this so called storm.... welll it will be busy for me a lot this weekend into the next week. Anyway I will see what I can do.

[palallin]

It has been my experience that "big block V6" is used to contrast with the later SBC-derived V6s.

[special-K]

Originally Posted by palallin

It has been my experience that "big block V6" is used to contrast with the later SBC-derived V6s.

Funny I never heard that before. The SBC derived V6s weren't GMC engines, These V6s are "GMC-only". No need to complicate things with an inaccurate description. I've only started hearing that recently, which is why I'm saying something about hoping to keep it from spreading. My experience has been that those who call the GMC V6s "big blocks" call all of them big block V6s. It's because they are big engines. They are a true truck engine. A whole lot of iron in these engines that get 305 cu in out of and up to 478. True the 305 had a big bore at 4.25", but that left a whole lot of meat. The 478 from same block had a 5.125 bore! That's 7/8" more bore!! I wish I had a side by sife of GMC V6 and small block.

I'd love to have this truck. It should be left as is, but my tinkering mind says it would be supercool with a 351/4spd swap, the way it could have been built, with 8" wheels and dual exhaust. Stock height

[MusicMan70]

Here's a pic of them both

[special-K]

She's a stroker! They ride high in the saddle when you look under the hood. I wonder if that's a picture I took at Duallyjams' place years ago. It looks just like what I had pictured from when I saw them together in his garage shop. I'd like to see a V6 next to a big block

[mr.precision]

Originally Posted by palallin

It has been my experience that "big block V6" is used to contrast with the later SBC-derived V6s.

Yup that's what I have always heard in reference to the 305 V6.
Love the rear bumper. Looks like a '66 bumper upside down.

[arcticman]

Frankly I dont know for sure myself. I do know there are plenty of people refering to them as a big block motor. Its just a few pounds short of 800 yes 800 LBS. It does have a large bore 4.25. I also see posts gonig back almost 10 years. Ive also read that big block,small block refers to v8s only, anthing 400ci and over but then you have 396 and the small block 400. I understand these are not gmc motors. I do know this I am one of those people that dont know there stuff and never had much time for those who know it all.

[factorystock]

GMC V6 engines are in a class by themselves. All of them are large, the only question is: Is it the small cube or bigger cube version? Most all '67 GMC's have no tell tale emblems to detect what's under the hood. From most of my observations, most GMC '64 '65 '66 '67 '68 '69 shortbed 6 cly 3 speed 1/2 tons came with the Chevy 6's. Here is a photo of the iron around the cylinder walls on a 305 V6, also note how the crankshaft is supported by the lower block.