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03BlkZ · 12-08-2019, 07:28 AM

Well my dad and I are going to start working his 70 C10 this week. My plans for the first day are to get it out of the shop where it has sat for almost 20 years. I want to get it out and give it a good bath and that will allow us easier access to clean up the shop a bit also to make more room. I would like to get it back in the shop and get it on some jack stands to start evaluation. From then we will decide how we want to proceed. Should be a good time working on this with dad but I a little overwhelmed on where to even begin. I kind of want to take it down to the frame but I think dad just wants to make it safe and reliable to drive again. It will have to be a compromise between us since we are splitting the cost of everything. What would you guys do? Definately the bed rails, headache rack and brush guard will be trashed. I'm excited to get started and learn alot from all the knowledge here. Thanks,
Brent

doo142 · 12-08-2019, 09:24 AM

To keep it fun and to not get burned out work on one area at a time and keep the truck operable. Get it running then stopping. Then maybe one side floor board rust repair. Then you and pops can take it for a ride and enjoy it while your working on it. If it’s totally torn apart it gets really expensive and no reward of driving it, that is overwhelming and will burn you guys out. My .02$

jaros44sr · 12-08-2019, 09:30 AM

^^^ I agree, except, DON'T throw out any parts, the brush guard may be desireable to other people, I've seen them go for a considerable amount of money on the for sale board. I've been working on mine for 20 years, wish I didn't take it apart

Mike C · 12-08-2019, 10:09 AM

That brush guard is the "Smash Hit" and is the same as the one on my short step. It was made right there in Waco by The Perry Company and it is SOLID steel bars no wimpy tube. Looks like it may be tweaked a little on drivers side but you may want to keep it. I was going to ditch mine but the lower braces modify the grill surround so I decided to keep it and it has grown on me.

Truck looks like a good solid project. Decide what your goals are for the truck and start by cleaning it up. Wash the outside, vacuum the inside and start fixing things you need to reach your goal!

notsolo · 12-08-2019, 10:55 AM

Search CLR....after you wash it, scotch bright and CLR....let it sit a while and rinse. Sweet project.

03BlkZ · 12-08-2019, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by notsolo

Search CLR....after you wash it, scotch bright and CLR....let it sit a while and rinse. Sweet project.

I'm assuming you are talking about using CLR on the trim and grill along with the scotchbrite.

**68bowtie** · 12-08-2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by notsolo

Search CLR....after you wash it, scotch bright and CLR....let it sit a while and rinse. Sweet project.

^^^ This! (0000 steel wool on that beautiful original paint...) Then get it roadworthy/safe. Enjoy some rides together as you work on more. As mentioned above it’s amazing how easy it is to teardown, and end up with a never ending project.

Oh, and start a build thread so we can all watch. Awesome truck!

03BlkZ · 12-08-2019, 10:59 AM

[quote=Mike C;8639335]That brush guard is the "Smash Hit" and is the same as the one on my short step. It was made right there in Waco by The Perry Company and it is SOLID steel bars no wimpy tube. Looks like it may be tweaked a little on drivers side but you may want to keep it. I was going to ditch mine but the lower braces modify the grill surround so I decided to keep it and it has grown on me.

Truck looks like a good solid project. Decide what your goals are for the truck and start by cleaning it up. Wash the outside, vacuum the inside and start fixing things you need to reach your

Interesting Information about the brush guard. I will keep that in mind and maybe see about selling it to put money back into the truck.

dz1087 · 12-17-2019, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by doo142

To keep it fun and to not get burned out work on one area at a time and keep the truck operable. Get it running then stopping. Then maybe one side floor board rust repair. Then you and pops can take it for a ride and enjoy it while your working on it. If it’s totally torn apart it gets really expensive and no reward of driving it, that is overwhelming and will burn you guys out. My .02$

100% agree.

We got our truck in January, drove it off the trailer and in to the garage and started tearing apart. Been frustrating seeing a partially built truck out there ever since. Finally starting to put things back on the cab and the frame/drive train is almost completely reassembled. Actually just got the exhaust in today.

It would have been much more fun to do it piecemeal and be able to enjoy driving it over the past several months.

cornerstone · 12-18-2019, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 03BlkZ

I'm with you on what you are saying but I am leaving the decisions on how far we take it up to my dad. We decided to take on this project so he and I could have something to do together. He and my brother have their hunting and fishing. I am a car guy and have always wanted this truck in the future. My dad and I have a great relationship and I am very fortunate to be able to take this on with him. I just want him to be able to enjoy this truck for many more years rather it be getting it running and driving or working on a bigger project. In the end I am happy. Just didn't want to see it sitting in the shop untouched and collecting junk any longer.

Ok. Glad to hear more perspective. What an awesome opportunity for the both of yall!

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I get what Cornerstone was trying to recommend. Focus on cleaning up what's there before starting ANY paint/priming (especially on exterior surfaces of the panels) & plan it out from there. You said it yourself.... You're the car guy; he's the hunter. Help him understand the 'why' of your suggestions. If he doesn't care, then you made the preservation effort regardless.

Wire wheels on a drill work well for stripping the frame/suspension parts. They also sell a DIY sandblast set-up now the uses water-pressure w/sand media for road grime clean-up. Google 'Dustless Blasting' after the CLR process. And.... White or Lt Gray Scotch-Brite pads for the painted surfaces; 0000 steel wool for trim for the CLR process.

Well said! Thanks SCOTI....

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Originally Posted by 03BlkZ

Don't get me wrong here. My dad is a car guy also and recently retired from a 42 year career in automotive paint and body. If he wants to do body an paint work I am more than happy letting him do it.

Wow! This really opens up some serious possibilities... Lots of pictures please! (although maybe a bit smaller?)

How about setting up a build thread?
Brian

03BlkZ · 12-18-2019, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cornerstone

Ok. Glad to hear more perspective. What an awesome opportunity for the both of yall!

Well said! Thanks SCOTI....

Wow! This really opens up some serious possibilities... Lots of pictures please! (although maybe a bit smaller?)

How about setting up a build thread?
Brian

I will try and set up a build thread once we really get moving.

03BlkZ · 12-08-2019, 11:46 AM

The grill appears to be aluminum is that right? I was wondering how hard it would be to polish.

**LockDoc** · 12-08-2019, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 03BlkZ

The grill appears to be aluminum is that right? I was wondering how hard it would be to polish.

The grille and trim are aluminum but it has an anodized finish on it. The anodizing would have to be removed before you could polish it. I don't know how bad it is but I would try some Turtle Wax White Polishing Compound on it first.

LockDoc

**JDL** · 12-08-2019, 12:05 PM

Change all fluids antifreeze, engine oil brake fluid, trans oil and rear-end. check brake shoes and wheel cylinders and pack wheel bearings.

**Steeveedee** · 12-08-2019, 02:29 PM

I didn't go look at the links, but I'd think that the white Scotch-brite would be the one to use. The green is pretty aggressive.

Bigdav160 · 12-08-2019, 02:39 PM

A very high percentage of "frame off" projects never get finished.
First one? The percentage is even higher.

Get it running, stopping, driving and enjoy owning the truck.

54blackhornet · 12-08-2019, 03:16 PM

Brent I would suggest you think again about removing all the aftermarket items your father installed. Those things where an investment he thought necessary to protect it. As others have stated get her running first safely and do one project at a time. Lots of us get a chance to work on dads old truck AFTER he passed, you get to while he’s still with you, enjoy the time together...

03BlkZ · 12-13-2019, 11:04 PM

So update on our new project. We got her out of the shop this morning to make an attempt to try and clean up the shop to allow more room to work. We hauled off two full truck loads of junk so it was a start. This was the first time it had seen sun in about 20 years and I felt good to get to out. We both wanted to remove the bed rails and headache rack so while dad was sweeping in the shop I yanked off. I decided to go ahead and give it a good wash to clean up some of the 20 years of dirt on the paint. We moved it to the other bay of the shop where she will sit while being worked on. I am excited to jump in on tjeis project and I am on vacation until 2 Jan so I have some time to spend going over all aspects of the truck so we can decide on a game plan. Here are a few more pics!

*randy500* · 12-14-2019, 01:12 AM

You didnt say it was a short bed and it was hard to tell when it was stuffed the the garage, cool truck and a bit odd i think being a short bed and that smash hit grill guard on it.

Thats a very desirable and valuable grill guard.

*randy500* · 12-14-2019, 01:13 AM

Post a SPID pic

03BlkZ · 12-14-2019, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by randy500

Post a SPID pic

What is a SPID pic? Unfortunately the fruck is about 45 minutes away at my parents house and I won't be back that way until Monday.

03BlkZ · 12-16-2019, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by randy500

Post a SPID pic

Here is a pic of the SPID. Hope its big enough to read.

jjzepplin · 12-14-2019, 09:53 AM

It is an option label on the inside of the glove box. MAN those pics are BIG!

03BlkZ · 12-14-2019, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jjzepplin

It is an option label on the inside of the glove box. MAN those pics are BIG!

Will do. I saw it on the glovebox door yesterday.

vitamin_c95 · 12-14-2019, 11:19 AM

I also have a project I bought off my neighbor. It did not run but he was slowly getting it there. The tanks and fuel were already purged and a new edelbrock intake and carb. I would love to do a restore but at the same time don't want to take 20 years to do it. In my case, im.calling it the rolling restore. I made.it run, and looking to get it road worthy so I can drive it when I want.. I am fixing and replacing parts as I go.
What I am saying is, basically go his route and get it driveable and fix as you go. Fresh fluids, get it running, fix leaks and go from there

12-08-2019, 07:28 AM	#1
03BlkZ Registered User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Hewitt, Tx Posts: 386	Where do I even start Well my dad and I are going to start working his 70 C10 this week. My plans for the first day are to get it out of the shop where it has sat for almost 20 years. I want to get it out and give it a good bath and that will allow us easier access to clean up the shop a bit also to make more room. I would like to get it back in the shop and get it on some jack stands to start evaluation. From then we will decide how we want to proceed. Should be a good time working on this with dad but I a little overwhelmed on where to even begin. I kind of want to take it down to the frame but I think dad just wants to make it safe and reliable to drive again. It will have to be a compromise between us since we are splitting the cost of everything. What would you guys do? Definately the bed rails, headache rack and brush guard will be trashed. I'm excited to get started and learn alot from all the knowledge here. Thanks, Brent

12-08-2019, 09:24 AM	#2
doo142 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bristol,In. Posts: 1,116	Re: Where do I even start To keep it fun and to not get burned out work on one area at a time and keep the truck operable. Get it running then stopping. Then maybe one side floor board rust repair. Then you and pops can take it for a ride and enjoy it while your working on it. If it’s totally torn apart it gets really expensive and no reward of driving it, that is overwhelming and will burn you guys out. My .02$ __________________ 72 Cheyenne k/20, Custom Camper 72 Cheyenne k/20 71 blazer K/5 2WD 454, 6 sp. 67 Chevy Napco c30 Dump 56 GMC Napco 4x4 short step 66 Chevy K10 68 Chevy C/30 4x4

12-08-2019, 09:30 AM	#3
jaros44sr Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,457	Re: Where do I even start ^^^ I agree, except, DON'T throw out any parts, the brush guard may be desireable to other people, I've seen them go for a considerable amount of money on the for sale board. I've been working on mine for 20 years, wish I didn't take it apart __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

12-08-2019, 10:09 AM	#4
Mike C Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Austin, TX, USA Posts: 7,715	Re: Where do I even start That brush guard is the "Smash Hit" and is the same as the one on my short step. It was made right there in Waco by The Perry Company and it is SOLID steel bars no wimpy tube. Looks like it may be tweaked a little on drivers side but you may want to keep it. I was going to ditch mine but the lower braces modify the grill surround so I decided to keep it and it has grown on me. Truck looks like a good solid project. Decide what your goals are for the truck and start by cleaning it up. Wash the outside, vacuum the inside and start fixing things you need to reach your goal! __________________ 44 Willys MB 52 M38A1 64 Corvette Coupe 68 Camaro 'vert LT1 & TH700 69 Z/28 355 12.6's @110 69 Chevy Short Step 4 1/2"/7" drop 72 Jimmy 4WD 4spd 4" & 35's 02 GMC 2500HD 4x4 Duramax

12-08-2019, 10:55 AM	#5
notsolo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Md Posts: 2,458	Re: Where do I even start Search CLR....after you wash it, scotch bright and CLR....let it sit a while and rinse. Sweet project. __________________ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=635605

12-08-2019, 10:59 AM	#8
03BlkZ Registered User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Hewitt, Tx Posts: 386	Re: Where do I even start [quote=Mike C;8639335]That brush guard is the "Smash Hit" and is the same as the one on my short step. It was made right there in Waco by The Perry Company and it is SOLID steel bars no wimpy tube. Looks like it may be tweaked a little on drivers side but you may want to keep it. I was going to ditch mine but the lower braces modify the grill surround so I decided to keep it and it has grown on me. Truck looks like a good solid project. Decide what your goals are for the truck and start by cleaning it up. Wash the outside, vacuum the inside and start fixing things you need to reach your Interesting Information about the brush guard. I will keep that in mind and maybe see about selling it to put money back into the truck. Last edited by 03BlkZ; 12-08-2019 at 11:31 AM.

12-08-2019, 11:46 AM	#12
03BlkZ Registered User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Hewitt, Tx Posts: 386	Re: Where do I even start The grill appears to be aluminum is that right? I was wondering how hard it would be to polish.

12-08-2019, 12:05 PM	#14
JDL Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Agency IA. Posts: 1,839	Re: Where do I even start Change all fluids antifreeze, engine oil brake fluid, trans oil and rear-end. check brake shoes and wheel cylinders and pack wheel bearings. __________________ 72 Chevy short step side with 454 air and tilt. 72 nova project car 63 chevy II drag car Agency Iowa

12-08-2019, 02:29 PM	#15
Steeveedee Who Changed This? Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 10,287	Re: Where do I even start I didn't go look at the links, but I'd think that the white Scotch-brite would be the one to use. The green is pretty aggressive. __________________ ~Steven '70 Chevy 3/4T Longhorn CST 402/400/3.56 Custom Camper Simi Valley, CA

12-08-2019, 02:39 PM	#16
Bigdav160 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Klein Texas Posts: 3,852	Re: Where do I even start A very high percentage of "frame off" projects never get finished. First one? The percentage is even higher. Get it running, stopping, driving and enjoy owning the truck. __________________ My Classics: '72 K20 Suburban + '65 Dodge Town Wagon '72 Corvette Roadster +'67 Corvette Roadster '73 Z-28 Camaro '63 Ford SWB Uni Pickup '50 Ford Coupe

12-08-2019, 03:16 PM	#17
54blackhornet Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Eastern Oregon Posts: 2,303	Re: Where do I even start Brent I would suggest you think again about removing all the aftermarket items your father installed. Those things where an investment he thought necessary to protect it. As others have stated get her running first safely and do one project at a time. Lots of us get a chance to work on dads old truck AFTER he passed, you get to while he’s still with you, enjoy the time together... __________________ 71 C-20 07 Magnum RT AWD

12-13-2019, 11:04 PM	#18
03BlkZ Registered User Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Hewitt, Tx Posts: 386	Re: Where do I even start So update on our new project. We got her out of the shop this morning to make an attempt to try and clean up the shop to allow more room to work. We hauled off two full truck loads of junk so it was a start. This was the first time it had seen sun in about 20 years and I felt good to get to out. We both wanted to remove the bed rails and headache rack so while dad was sweeping in the shop I yanked off. I decided to go ahead and give it a good wash to clean up some of the 20 years of dirt on the paint. We moved it to the other bay of the shop where she will sit while being worked on. I am excited to jump in on tjeis project and I am on vacation until 2 Jan so I have some time to spend going over all aspects of the truck so we can decide on a game plan. Here are a few more pics!

12-14-2019, 01:12 AM	#19
randy500 Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 6,873	Re: Where do I even start You didnt say it was a short bed and it was hard to tell when it was stuffed the the garage, cool truck and a bit odd i think being a short bed and that smash hit grill guard on it. Thats a very desirable and valuable grill guard.

12-14-2019, 01:13 AM	#20
randy500 Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 6,873	Re: Where do I even start Post a SPID pic

12-14-2019, 09:53 AM	#23
jjzepplin Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ruskin Florida Posts: 4,553	Re: Where do I even start It is an option label on the inside of the glove box. MAN those pics are BIG! __________________ 70 swb 4x4 406sbc 700r4 203/205 d60/14blt locker yadda yadda http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...88#post6935688 Yeller 72 Blazer 2wd conversion project "No Daggum Money" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=550804 LS1-T56 3.73 LSD super budget build Blanco-2014 Sierra SWB https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=810350



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12-14-2019, 11:19 AM	#25
vitamin_c95 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: So Cal, CA Posts: 108	Re: Where do I even start I also have a project I bought off my neighbor. It did not run but he was slowly getting it there. The tanks and fuel were already purged and a new edelbrock intake and carb. I would love to do a restore but at the same time don't want to take 20 years to do it. In my case, im.calling it the rolling restore. I made.it run, and looking to get it road worthy so I can drive it when I want.. I am fixing and replacing parts as I go. What I am saying is, basically go his route and get it driveable and fix as you go. Fresh fluids, get it running, fix leaks and go from there __________________ 1971 C20 Longhorn 350/350 "Conquistador"

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