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Old 02-05-2020, 11:02 AM   #1
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Shipping increases

Beware of shipping increases at USPS

All Flat rates went up.

I sent a parcel ground from Oregon to Tx,

Usually 35-40. Yesterday at post office, same package, size and weight, $61.31

Took it to UPS, $43.00.

Ouch. Be careful when quoting your shipping prices.
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Old 02-05-2020, 12:00 PM   #2
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Amazon fired FedEx. They could not perform to their standards.

Go figure. That is great to know TBone!
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Old 02-05-2020, 12:09 PM   #3
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Beware of shipping increases at USPS

All Flat rates went up.

I sent a parcel ground from Oregon to Tx,

Usually 35-40. Yesterday at post office, same package, size and weight, $61.31

Took it to UPS, $43.00.

Ouch. Be careful when quoting your shipping prices.
I also have noticed the price increase on shipping through the USPS...
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I hadn't heard anything official, but suspected that the rates had taken a significant jump just from the packages I have sent in the last few months.

Hope shipping doesn't get completely unreasonable as it will be a deal breaker more and more often.
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Old 02-05-2020, 01:40 PM   #5
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Taking stuff to UPS and paying retail rates is foolish. Open a UPS shipping account online and save 20% off retail rates.
https://www.ups.com/mrd/promodiscoun...moCd=CNJFJYII8

No need to wait in line at the ups store, just drop prepaid package on the counter and say it's prepaid, when they scan it you get a notification. Huge time and money saver.
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Taking stuff to UPS and paying retail rates is foolish. Open a UPS shipping account online and save 20% off retail rates.
https://www.ups.com/mrd/promodiscoun...moCd=CNJFJYII8

No need to wait in line at the ups store, just drop prepaid package on the counter and say it's prepaid, when they scan it you get a notification. Huge time and money saver.
You can print shipping labels right from PP site if paid with goods and services. I normally only use is for anything I am shipping by way of USPS since I already have a UPS account, but i think you can do UPS from there as well and it is all at a discounted rate from walking in to the post office.The only thing is you need to have a postal scale. I bought one at Sams Club that goes to 150lbs, is battery operated and has a remote readout for less than $30.
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Amazon fired FedEx. They could not perform to their standards.

Go figure. That is great to know TBone!
Actually its the other way around . I talked to my Fed X driver and he said Amazon only wanted to send their hard to deliver packages that were out in the middle of nowhere . Maybe like "2nd left past the stump on a dirt road." Hah Amazon is using their own fleet for large cities where the deliveries are frequent and easy and have been phasing out Fed x there for some time . Or so bulky they could not send them thru the post office so they used Fed x . Fed x is still doing their international stuff . According to him they were losing money after they lost the large city deliveries. You probably will not see and Amazon truck or car in a small town or in the country . They would lose money too.

Now here is a weird one. If you are a third party seller one Amazon ( your ship from your location ) Bezos will shut you down if you use Fed X . This irks me . It Ok if Amazon wants to boycott Fed X to get what they want . But if you are a seller with a longtime Fed X account your now cannot use it .

Here is another one. I have my own USPS Fed X and UPS account and use the one that best fits the package. The USPS trucks are full of Amazon packages. They pretty much held the arm of USPS behind their back until they gave them almost free shipping rates. A how many billion did our post office loose last year . I think it was 2 billion. The post office should have stood their ground .

My UPS driver told me they also told Amazon to go to H . They wanted them to do the 150 pound items for peanuts . Ups said no way . Not a big fan of Amazon
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Amazon is getting too big for their britches.
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Found the same...
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You can still ship USPS First Class for about $3-4 if under 16 oz. if shipping off your Paypal account.....walk up to the counter and the weight limit is 13 oz. There is no option for First Class with a USPS online account, Priority only. Also Paypal has a USPS Parcel Select ground option (2-9 days), worth checking the cost for larger parts. First Class is a great way to ship small parts, but the 3 oz. difference is a killer! Harlow
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Old 02-05-2020, 07:52 PM   #11
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I agree I sent Tbone1964 2 cluster the 2nd one cost me $26 dollars more than the 1st one in less then a month.
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Happened to me. I sold a set of step side tail lights. Medium flat rate box was $12.80 now $15.05.
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Boxed up a 4x4 shroud off a 72 to get shipping quotes today. From CA to GA FedEx 120, UPS 130, didn’t check USPS figured they’d be more. Made me think of all you who constantly sell here. Shipping is killer
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Actually its the other way around . I talked to my Fed X driver and he said Amazon only wanted to send their hard to deliver packages that were out in the middle of nowhere . Maybe like "2nd left past the stump on a dirt road." Hah Amazon is using their own fleet for large cities where the deliveries are frequent and easy and have been phasing out Fed x there for some time . Or so bulky they could not send them thru the post office so they used Fed x . Fed x is still doing their international stuff . According to him they were losing money after they lost the large city deliveries. You probably will not see and Amazon truck or car in a small town or in the country . They would lose money too.

Now here is a weird one. If you are a third party seller one Amazon ( your ship from your location ) Bezos will shut you down if you use Fed X . This irks me . It Ok if Amazon wants to boycott Fed X to get what they want . But if you are a seller with a longtime Fed X account your now cannot use it .

Here is another one. I have my own USPS Fed X and UPS account and use the one that best fits the package. The USPS trucks are full of Amazon packages. They pretty much held the arm of USPS behind their back until they gave them almost free shipping rates. A how many billion did our post office loose last year . I think it was 2 billion. The post office should have stood their ground .

My UPS driver told me they also told Amazon to go to H . They wanted them to do the 150 pound items for peanuts . Ups said no way . Not a big fan of Amazon
Yeah, I think the USPS increases to us, the consumer, happened to save their losses generated by getting roped into a money losing contract with Amahog. As it is, the USPS fleet of mail trucks are from the '90s. They were designed to run mailbox to mailbox on a dedicated route once a day., six days a week. Now they are hustling all over the place from pre-dawn to post-dusk seven days a week backtracking and making those old 4 bangers scream (4.10 posi/no OD). I hear them coming and whizzing by all day long. The writing on the wall says a new fleet is in order and that's not possible when operating at a loss.

People sold our manufacturing out to save pennies in the late 20th century. Then sold out small retail businesses to save pennies with the big boxes selling foreign crap. And now those are dropping off from people going to Amazon to save pennies. With money comes power and Amazon is a prime example of going for it all. Not a good thing
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You can still ship USPS First Class for about $3-4 if under 16 oz. if shipping off your Paypal account.....walk up to the counter and the weight limit is 13 oz. There is no option for First Class with a USPS online account, Priority only. Also Paypal has a USPS Parcel Select ground option (2-9 days), worth checking the cost for larger parts. First Class is a great way to ship small parts, but the 3 oz. difference is a killer! Harlow
I haven't seen any deals on parcel select ground lately. I have seen them within a buck of each other on $25 and more shipping costs. Its too bad shipping will be the killer to getting parts for reasonable...
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I haven't seen any deals on parcel select ground lately. I have seen them within a buck of each other on $25 and more shipping costs. Its too bad shipping will be the killer to getting parts for reasonable...
I don't even bother to check parcel select anymore. It is always less than a buck difference every time I did. I would rather pay for the 2-3 day shipping vs 2-9 day for that little difference. Every day they have it is one more chance of damage or loss.
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Actually its the other way around . I talked to my Fed X driver and he said Amazon only wanted to send their hard to deliver packages that were out in the middle of nowhere . Maybe like "2nd left past the stump on a dirt road." Hah Amazon is using their own fleet for large cities where the deliveries are frequent and easy and have been phasing out Fed x there for some time . Or so bulky they could not send them thru the post office so they used Fed x . Fed x is still doing their international stuff . According to him they were losing money after they lost the large city deliveries. You probably will not see and Amazon truck or car in a small town or in the country . They would lose money too.

Now here is a weird one. If you are a third party seller one Amazon ( your ship from your location ) Bezos will shut you down if you use Fed X . This irks me . It Ok if Amazon wants to boycott Fed X to get what they want . But if you are a seller with a longtime Fed X account your now cannot use it .

Here is another one. I have my own USPS Fed X and UPS account and use the one that best fits the package. The USPS trucks are full of Amazon packages. They pretty much held the arm of USPS behind their back until they gave them almost free shipping rates. A how many billion did our post office loose last year . I think it was 2 billion. The post office should have stood their ground .

My UPS driver told me they also told Amazon to go to H . They wanted them to do the 150 pound items for peanuts . Ups said no way . Not a big fan of Amazon
I'm no fan either, but I'm a hypocrite too, just made another order. The feds need nail Bezos, split this up. He and a few others are far too powerful and the consequences run deeper everyday.
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Unfortunately it is part of the price we pay for the inter-net parts supply being so much a part of every day life. People many times can't find the parts they need/want locally. Salvage yards, junk yards, auto parts reclamation centers, call them what you will, they are no longer every where like they once were. Land became worth more for other developments, encroaching towns and city folk don't want them as neighbors, EPA laws and regs, Cash for Clunkers program......all took a toll on availability of parts. Parts, new and used, became available over the net and people got used to that as an alternative. Being the human race is generally an impatient lot, who ever would supply it quicker, at a cheaper price and to the door convenience gained favor. The parts suppliers all got on the gravy train and many factors became involved with them wanting to increase the profit margins. Fuel, labor, brick and motor costs, insurance costs, taxes, the list can be added on for so many things. It all boils down to the fact if you want or need a part, can't find it locally or wait for that next once or twice a year swap meet possible find what other alternative is there? If you want to play you got to pay. Not other way around it.
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Shipping costs is why I dont sell parts on here , I do still buy on here when I see something I need . I sell most of my parts locally but I also sell to a few far away folks that have someone swing by and pick up for them . Sold a tailgate to a guy in Kentucky , it was in back of my truck , he had prepaid and came by very early before I was even out of bed , and Im up early . He loaded it up , wish I could have met him but maybe next time . He knew where it would be and was on his way . I have lost many sales in the past because shipping cost was as much as the parts .
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Actually its the other way around . I talked to my Fed X driver and he said Amazon only wanted to send their hard to deliver packages that were out in the middle of nowhere . Maybe like "2nd left past the stump on a dirt road." Hah Amazon is using their own fleet for large cities where the deliveries are frequent and easy and have been phasing out Fed x there for some time . Or so bulky they could not send them thru the post office so they used Fed x . Fed x is still doing their international stuff . According to him they were losing money after they lost the large city deliveries. You probably will not see and Amazon truck or car in a small town or in the country . They would lose money too.
Now that you mention it, I haven't seen Fedex trucks getting stuck out here on our dirt roads for a while. I don't blame them because this had to be a money loser compared to city deliveries. Local residents had to keep pulling them out of the ditch.

But at least UPS was smart enough to buy their driver a little one ton 4x4 box truck. And they keep a regular driver out here so he knows his way around instead of Fedex sending new guys out here in the wilderness.
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Now that you mention it, I haven't seen Fedex trucks getting stuck out here on our dirt roads for a while. I don't blame them because this had to be a money loser compared to city deliveries. Local residents had to keep pulling them out of the ditch.

But at least UPS was smart enough to buy their driver a little one ton 4x4 box truck. And they keep a regular driver out here so he knows his way around instead of Fedex sending new guys out here in the wilderness.
Hah , thats funny . In the eastern part of Nebraska the UPS trucks are run of the mill . Last year I went to western Nebraska which is ranch country . As I was driving down the highway I passed a brown 4 x 4 Ferd Pickup . To my shock it had a UPS emblem on the door. Many times it is 25 or more miles into a ranch one a one lane sand trail .. Maybe Amazon could use a drone which a rancher would probably shoot out of the sky .

Amazon is trying to hour delivery and delivery groceries. Oh wait I live on the ranch above and need to order a gallon of milk. Thats funny.
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Hah , thats funny . In the eastern part of Nebraska the UPS trucks are run of the mill . Last year I went to western Nebraska which is ranch country . As I was driving down the highway I passed a brown 4 x 4 Ferd Pickup . To my shock it had a UPS emblem on the door. Many times it is 25 or more miles into a ranch one a one lane sand trail .. Maybe Amazon could use a drone which a rancher would probably shoot out of the sky .

Amazon is trying to hour delivery and delivery groceries. Oh wait I live on the ranch above and need to order a gallon of milk. Thats funny.
Well it's sort of crowded around here: 40's and 80's and quarter sections +/-.

But it's 16 miles to the nearest gas station and 26 miles to the nearest grocery store (actually we go about three blocks farther to the next nearest grocery store ). Or it's 60 miles to the edge of a real city. All of that assuming the road isn't drifted shut or so muddy that you can't go anywhere, or once in a while flooded.
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There is a new kid on the block, LSO shipping for the southern states .

I ordered some Mar-K cross sills thru Summit and They are being delivered by LSO shipping , I've never heard of them . When talking to the guys at Summit they told me that LSO been around for a while and had good shipping rates in the southwest and they are expanding to the southeast . Has anyone used these guys before ?

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TTT

Just got a smaller than a shoebox and pretty light package today and noticed it was almost 18 bucks to ship to me.

I sell a few things now and again on the board and people that never ship and only buy really need to realize how expensive its getting. Someone wont come down on something and that kills the deal, happens pretty often. Buyers might think Im only asking for a ten dollar discount, but oftentimes that leaves the bone dry.

No reason for the sellers to go backwards on deals
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I now try to list parts with shipping included, unless it's big and heavy with variable pricing. Things like visors, let's say, because that is my latest parts offering. I look at what they are selling for and offer mine including shipping. I have the big flat rate boxes (gameboard). I'm not getting responses, probably, because the price seems high. But when I offered visors priced before shipping I'd get people dropping off after getting shipping quote. Did they not expect shipping to add to the cost? Do they really have no clue what shipping rates are in general? If we were neighbors I could offer for less and no shipping. You come by, I grab the part out of the shed, you pay, we chat, go our ways. W

When parts sellers are shipping, yeah, they have to add the shipping cost. That's not money for them. AND... there's no money for them to package properly or to take the time to take to shipping place. That's what some businesses call 'handling'. You get that for free as part of the price of the part. So c'mon buy for your parts if you want the best price. I'll gladly treat you right!
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