Base 71K10?

[CG]

If you ordered a K10 in 71 how would the base truck come?

No options, but no delete of standard items (heat).

[jocko]

Probably easier to describe what it doesn't come with - but, generally speaking, if no options were selected it would have:

• "Custom/10" badge on the fenders with no engine callouts under the marker lamps
• 250 (if KS VIN) or 307 (if KE VIN) - both considered base engines
• 3 OTT
• Semi-float 3.73 rear axle
• power front disk brakes/drum rear
• G78-15 bias ply tires on 15x6 white steelies
• regular depth foam in a vinyl covered bench seat (not the scrollwork Cheyenne type, just the base) in black, blue, green (not olive), or parchment
• AM radio (was an option to delete it) EDIT: See post 16 below
• no gauge package, just the speedo, fuel gauge, and idiot lights/blinkers, etc.
• base color keyed door panels
• rubber floor mat
• chrome sport mirrors
• painted front bumper
• no side trim (unless a two tone combo was ordered, which could be done on a base model)
• solid, conventional two tone (white top), deluxe two tone (white top and middle) or custom two tone (two non-white color combo) paint

[CG]

Im surprised the radio was a standard thing

[71gmcC15]

So are gmc different. Mine lists the am radio. Which would mean it's an option. Unless Ks are different from Cs like how all Ks got power breakes.

[71gmcC15]

Spare tire would be mounted under the bed to. Not in the box. Right?

[D.PASSMORE]

As Jocko says:
C/K models-
First year of Cheyenne / "Cheyenne Super"??
then: Custom XX deluxe
followed by: Custom XX

For what ever reason, I sold a 70 SWB C10 with four things on the spid. It wasn't a special order if I remember right.

[jocko]

Originally Posted by CG

Im surprised the radio was a standard thing

You know, I can swear I've seen radio delete on SPIDs, but - to your point, the AM radio DOES appear on the SPID, so I believe this may be bad gouge (i.e. it may be incorrect that AM radio is standard). Anyone else know for certain?

[jocko]

Originally Posted by D.PASSMORE

As Jocko says:
C/K models-
First year of Cheyenne / "Cheyenne Super"??
then: Custom XX deluxe
followed by: Custom XX

For what ever reason, I sold a 70 SWB C10 with four things on the spid. It wasn't a special order if I remember right.

RPO Z84 was available 67-72, first as a Custom Sport Truck (CST) and then, in 71, as the Cheyenne (although wording still appeared as Custom Sport Truck on some early transition SPIDs). Cheyenne Super (YE9) was first available in mid-71 model year, and was a "new" RPO, setting a 4th, highest level of trim. YE9 continued into the squarebody years and eventually became the Silverado in 75.

[HO455]

Have you ever looked at the factory truck book that the dealers used. This link goes to the GM Heritage site. Pick the decade, pick Chevy trucks, your year.and be prepared to waste at least an hour. Obviously this isn't 100% accurate but non the less I find it fascinating.

https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/gm-...tion-kits.html

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by HO455

Have you ever looked at the factory truck book that the dealers used. This link goes to the GM Heritage site. Pick the decade, pick Chevy trucks, your year.and be prepared to waste at least an hour. Obviously this isn't 100% accurate but non the less I find it fascinating.

https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/gm-...tion-kits.html

They are accurate within reason (human ability). They are a contemporaneous document created by engineering and marketing to reflect design intent.

One of my jobs was to review and fact check these before they were published, from 1999 - 2008.

K

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by 71gmcC15

Spare tire would be mounted under the bed to. Not in the box. Right?

Spare tire (which was an option) would be mounted underneath. Base was no spare.

The in-the-bed mount was RPO P13 and was extra cost.

Rear bumper was also an option. Base was no rear bumper.

There was even a "base" color. If you did not specify what color you wanted it came as one of tans IIRC.

K

[CG]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Spare tire (which was an option) would be mounted underneath. Vase was no spare.

The in-the-bed mount was RPO P13 and was extra cost.

Rear bumper was also an option. Base was no rear bumper.

There was even a "base" color. If you did not specify what color you wanted it came as one of tans IIRC.

K

A base color, thats interesting.

When I was a kid (born in 59) my dad was a car salesman at a Chrysler Plymouth and GMC truck dealership from the late 60s through the early 70's. I was more interested in the cool muscle cars from the 67-73 (ish) years when he was there.

Every year when it was time to order his "demo" car we had fun seeing all the different options he could pick from. Im pretty sure he couldnt go any higher than the 383 hipo for an engine though, rats!

I had zero interest in the truck side of things. Wish I would have been a truck guy back then considering where I am now.

[68Gold/white]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Spare tire (which was an option) would be mounted underneath. Vase was no spare.

The in-the-bed mount was RPO P13 and was extra cost.

Rear bumper was also an option. Base was no rear bumper.

There was even a "base" color. If you did not specify what color you wanted it came as one of tans IIRC.

K

Hmmm, I was wondering if there was a "Base" color, perhaps a particular color, or two were the cheapest colors to purchase, when purchasing paint...seems as though white would have been the cheapest to manufacture. To make tan, you are tinting white...maybe?

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by CG

A base color, thats interesting.

When I was a kid (born in 59) my dad was a car salesman at a Chrysler Plymouth and GMC truck dealership from the late 60s through the early 70's. I was more interested in the cool muscle cars from the 67-73 (ish) years when he was there.

Every year when it was time to order his "demo" car we had fun seeing all the different options he could pick from. Im pretty sure he couldnt go any higher than the 383 hipo for an engine though, rats!

I had zero interest in the truck side of things. Wish I would have been a truck guy back then considering where I am now.

That first summer after I hired in at GM (1979) I worked in the Specifications group. I spent several weeks going through the Vehicle Description Summary figuring out exactly how I would order my truck.

Here is the result:

[1956cameo]

After reading about the AM radio discussion I thought that I would chime in. I bought a 1971 base C/10 two years ago. I'm pretty sure it was radio delete. Even though it did have an aftermarket radio in it there was a factory original radio delete plate the same color as the truck in the glove box. There is also no AM radio option on the SPID, however there is no radio delete on the SPID either.

[jocko]

Originally Posted by 1956cameo

After reading about the AM radio discussion I thought that I would chime in. I bought a 1971 base C/10 two years ago. I'm pretty sure it was radio delete. Even though it did have an aftermarket radio in it there was a factory original radio delete plate the same color as the truck in the glove box. There is also no AM radio option on the SPID, however there is no radio delete on the SPID either.

thanks for posting that - I think that provides the answer - AM radio was optional, and, if ordered, appeared on the SPID. No radio ordered = delete plate and nothing on SPID.

[68Gold/white]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

That first summer after I hired in at GM (1979) I worked in the Specifications group. I spent several weeks going through the Vehicle Description Summary figuring out exactly how I would order my truck.

Here is the result:

6 cyl, 4 speed???

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by 68Gold/white

6 cyl, 4 speed???

Yes - it was a 6 cyl with the three on the tree.

I pulled the three speed out and replaced it with a Saginaw four speed (which was the exact same size) and a floor mounted Hurst shifter.

I mounted the Sun tach on the column where the shift handle was.

K

[davischevy]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Spare tire (which was an option) would be mounted underneath. Base was no spare. K

But the base spare tire is not listed on the SPID? If it were an option would it not be listed?

[Keith Seymore]

Correct: base would be no spare, not listed on SPID.
Optional would be with a spare, and should show up on SPID.

The 67-72 SPIDs I looked at show RR&SP (Rear and Spare) or FR RR&SP (Front, rear and space) codes.

For a square body all of the tire options were listed, where:

XAB = front tire option
YAB = rear tire option
ZAB = spare tire option

This allowed you to buy different front tires from the rear tires and with another unique spare, if desired.

K

[71gmcC15]

Dont forget side mounted spare.

[HO455]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

They are accurate within reason (human ability). They are a contemporaneous document created by engineering and marketing to reflect design intent.

One of my jobs was to review and fact check these before they were published, from 1999 - 2008.

K

Let me thank you for your contribution. I've certainly enjoyed reading them over the years.

[57taskforce]

Originally Posted by HO455

Let me thank you for your contribution. I've certainly enjoyed reading them over the years.

Most definitely, I learn something new every time Keith posts!

[special-K]

Originally Posted by jocko

You know, I can swear I've seen radio delete on SPIDs, but - to your point, the AM radio DOES appear on the SPID, so I believe this may be bad gouge (i.e. it may be incorrect that AM radio is standard). Anyone else know for certain?

If no one has answered this question yet, the answer is AM radio was an option. Perhaps not with Cheyenne Super/Sierra Grande. I'd have to check a sales book or go out and look at glovebox doors

EDIT: I see in post #16 you had your answer

[jocko]

Thanks Tim, yep believe that is correct since it has an RPO, added a note to my list above so nobody would gather that from the original post - appreciate the response!