redoing headliner ?

[blazer2007]

Just in the process of fixing the sagging headliner and starting taking off the old glue and it pulls off like paper and leaves the fiberglass type headliner. I read on anther truck forum that he sprayed the headliner after it was cleaned with a polyurethane spray and let it dry and then used glue and put on headliner in the normal fashion. Is this a good idea to spray something on the headliner to help hold the fibers and make the headliner more uniform ?

[old Rusty C10]

you could spray it with an aerosol clear coat

[blazer2007]

Just wondering if the glue and headliner would pull off the clear coat ?

[SilverMiner]

Originally Posted by blazer2007

Just wondering if the glue and headliner would pull off the clear coat ?

I did the headliners in my Suburban (both front and rear, and the rear is HUGE) on my own without messing around with a clear coat. I did carefully scrape off the scuzzy old foam which left a reasonably smooth cardboard surface that accepted the 3M Super77 adhesive in excellent fashion. The new headliner has survived nearly three years now including very cold winters and quite hot summers.

When it comes to almost everything including adhesives, surface prep is everything. Simply carefully cleaning the scuzzy old foam worked for me, but I wouldn't be surprised to hear additional efforts may work as well.

[72c20customcamper]

I just did mine no clearcoat just removed the foam from the cardboard . Used weldwood landau top high heat resistant glue sprayed on with an old binks N° 7.

[72c20customcamper]

The foam just brushed off with a scrub brush . The hitch was for weight I lightly moistened the cardboard and placed weight on it to remove the sag worked out well.

[rideair]

Like others here, had the same problem with my 1988 Suburban, but decided to go another way.

Now, the Suburban has the old fashion "vinyl and bow" headliner with sound deadening (Dynomat) along with 3M™ Thinsulate™ Acoustic Insulation SM400L for heat/cool and sound control.

Also thought the vinyl-bow was a more classic look than the fuzzy stuff.

Enjoy,

[72c20customcamper]

Originally Posted by rideair

Like others here, had the same problem with my 1988 Suburban, but decided to go another way.

Now, the Suburban has the old fashion "vinyl and bow" headliner with sound deadening (Dynomat) along with 3M™ Thinsulate™ Acoustic Insulation SM400L for heat/cool and sound control.

Also thought the vinyl-bow was a more classic look than the fuzzy stuff.

Enjoy,

Mine isn't fuzzy its snakebite vinyl. Picture of the original . Found the exact match from a company that does alfa Romero's

[TKCR]

I’ve done several headliners, and never needed to spray anything but the adhesive glue on the headliner board. All the old foam can be removed using a wire brush. Then spray about half the the board and half the headliner material. Once that half in done, move to the other half. The adhesive I use is the High Temp for high heat area, like headliners.

[blazer2007]

Thanks for all the suggestions. Making headway on removing the old stuff,wear a mask, it bothered me at first. The only trouble is none of the products you mentioned are not available in Can. I had no luck with super 77 on simple projects. Might try loctite high heat adhesive

[TKCR]

Originally Posted by blazer2007

Thanks for all the suggestions. Making headway on removing the old stuff,wear a mask, it bothered me at first. The only trouble is none of the products you mentioned are not available in Can. I had no luck with super 77 on simple projects. Might try loctite high heat adhesive

The High Temp Adhesive I mentioned can be bought online. Amazon, eBay and a few headliner material places online. I get mine from MiamiCorp, they are the cheapest. Plus they are in Ohio, so when I order, I get it in a day or two. I also get other supplies there also. Headliner materials, foam adhesives and other things.
https://www.miamicorp.com/default.as...13&parent=2699
https://www.stockinteriors.com/headl...sp?ItemId=6731
https://www.amazon.com/High-Temp-Per.../dp/B072LYCDLH

[blazer2007]

I,ve tried and comes saying no sellers available to ship to your area. Don,t know if it is the CPP virus thing or certain chemicals can,t be shipped to Can.

[72c20customcamper]

Try an upholstery shop they should be able to steer you right direction to buy the glue. Or many even sell you some.

[72c20customcamper]

Originally Posted by TKCR

The High Temp Adhesive I mentioned can be bought online. Amazon, eBay and a few headliner material places online. I get mine from MiamiCorp, they are the cheapest. Plus they are in Ohio, so when I order, I get it in a day or two. I also get other supplies there also. Headliner materials, foam adhesives and other things.
https://www.miamicorp.com/default.as...13&parent=2699
https://www.stockinteriors.com/headl...sp?ItemId=6731
https://www.amazon.com/High-Temp-Per.../dp/B072LYCDLH

How many cans does it take to do a truck headliner? @ 12 bucks a can that could get expensive . I used over a quart just doing my suburban. The gallon of weldwood was $ 57 shipped

[TKCR]

Originally Posted by 72c20customcamper

How many cans does it take to do a truck headliner? @ 12 bucks a can that could get expensive . I used over a quart just doing my suburban. The gallon of weldwood was $ 57 shipped

1 can for a regular cab pickup. But I like to keep an extra can on hand just in case.

[kipps]

All this talk about headliners -- Did all trucks come with a headliner?

Mine doesn't have one. It's just steel overhead. Was it removed at some point, or was it only included with the high-optioned trucks?

[TKCR]

Originally Posted by kipps

All this talk about headliners -- Did all trucks come with a headliner?

Mine doesn't have one. It's just steel overhead. Was it removed at some point, or was it only included with the high-optioned trucks?

Some trucks did not come with headliners. But they can be added, you just need the interior headliner trim and headliner.

[69Tom]

Originally Posted by 72c20customcamper

Mine isn't fuzzy its snakebite vinyl. Picture of the original . Found the exact match from a company that does alfa Romero's

I have the same style material in my 74. Can you let me know where you got it? I'd rather not drop $250 on a new one.

Thanks.

[TKCR]

Originally Posted by 69Tom

I have the same style material in my 74. Can you let me know where you got it? I'd rather not drop $250 on a new one.

Thanks.

Snakebite is another word for perforated vinyl headliner material. You can do a Google search and all kinds of places online will come up. Then from there, you can check prices and colors. A lot of places offer color samples. I like using this place, because it’s in Ohio. I get my orders within a day or two. But they have the materials for the headliners and adhesives.
https://www.miamicorp.com/products/H...EADLINING.aspx
https://www.miamicorp.com/customer/m...Headlining.pdf

[Pontiac1976]

blazer2007:

Re: redoing headliner ?

I,ve tried and comes saying no sellers available to ship to your area. Don,t know if it is the CPP virus thing or certain chemicals can,t be shipped to Can.

You could try 3M Adhesive 77 I be leave it's called, try online Amazon.ca search 3M Adhesive 77 works on headliner.

[blazer2007]

I tried some super 77 on some material on the side panels on my Blazer and it started letting go after a year. We get some real hot weather here in the Okanagan valley. I talked to a upholstery shop and she said she uses Lepages contact cement from Home depot but she doesn,t do headliners as no one wants to pay her for all that work at $85 a hour

[72c20customcamper]

Originally Posted by 69Tom

I have the same style material in my 74. Can you let me know where you got it? I'd rather not drop $250 on a new one.

Thanks.

Place in Califonia
https://www.jjautofabrics.com/endura...-sold-by-yard/

[72c20customcamper]

Originally Posted by TKCR

Snakebite is another word for perforated vinyl headliner material. You can do a Google search and all kinds of places online will come up. Then from there, you can check prices and colors. A lot of places offer color samples. I like using this place, because it’s in Ohio. I get my orders within a day or two. But they have the materials for the headliners and adhesives.
https://www.miamicorp.com/products/H...EADLINING.aspx
https://www.miamicorp.com/customer/m...Headlining.pdf

Perferated isnt the same while both are technically perferated . The snake bite has a pattern much different to it

Perferated and snakebite

[Big Chip]

Thanks for the link to Miami, TKCR! I ordered white perforated, foam back headliner for the crew cab this morning.

[TKCR]

Originally Posted by Big Chip

Thanks for the link to Miami, TKCR! I ordered white perforated, foam back headliner for the crew cab this morning.

Your welcome