The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-20-2020, 02:15 PM   #1
FL71C10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 2,509
Sport mirror mounting screws

Do sport mirrors use sheet metal screws to go through the backing plate? I bought a set of repop sport mirrors and was surprised that there were not threaded holes in the backing plate. It comes with sheet metal screws that go into the backing plate.
__________________
71 Chevy C10 Shortbed Stepside. LT1 with
4l60E. Just got back from painter, in assembly now.
FL71C10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2020, 02:32 PM   #2
Lee H
Registered User
 
Lee H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Upland Ca
Posts: 4,147
Re: Sport mirror mounting screws

No, was not a sheet metal screw. It is GM part number 9419728. It is a 14-20X7/8, stainless steel screw. GM used this fastener on many cars in many places in the 60s & 70's. They can be found on fleabay. The new old stock backing plate have the threads, the repops do not.
Attached Images
 
__________________
1972 C10 SWB, Air, PS, PB, 350/350THM. Second owner.

1965 Corvette roadster, 44K miles, 327/365 SHP, 4 speed, side exhaust, knockoffs, teak, second owner (bought in 1970), Have ALL numbers matching components.

My frame off restoration thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=556703

Last edited by Lee H; 06-20-2020 at 02:45 PM.
Lee H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2020, 02:37 PM   #3
gmc684x4
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Whitehorse yukon
Posts: 1,218
Re: Sport mirror mounting screws

Not my pic but does it look like this style
the stock ones on my 68 had threaded backing plates

Lmc does show there backing plate for this style are threaded


Not sure about the smaller mirrors i have seen on our trucks

Other way is to drill holes and tack nuts on your backing plates
Attached Images
 

Last edited by gmc684x4; 06-20-2020 at 02:48 PM.
gmc684x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2020, 02:52 PM   #4
54blackhornet
Registered User
 
54blackhornet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Eastern Oregon
Posts: 2,393
Re: Sport mirror mounting screws

Just buy the proper screws and retap the backing plate to accept the screw.
__________________
71 C-20
07 Magnum RT AWD
54blackhornet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2020, 03:18 PM   #5
Ironangel
Senior Member
 
Ironangel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Falls City, Nebraska "100 Miles From Nowhere"
Posts: 2,219
Re: Sport mirror mounting screws

Quote:
Originally Posted by FL71C10 View Post
Do sport mirrors use sheet metal screws to go through the backing plate? I bought a set of repop sport mirrors and was surprised that there were not threaded holes in the backing plate. It comes with sheet metal screws that go into the backing plate.
That is correct, the 71-72 sport mirrors used three sheet metal screws that went from the outside in, through the mirror, the gasket, the outer door skin, and into the backing plate. I think the backing plates were glued in place when the mirrors were installed. Consequently over time the glue would fail and when the mirrors were removed the backing plate would fall to the bottom trapped inside the door. It's a good idea if you pre-drill the three holes in the door first. Use a 1/4" bit so the sheet metal screws will go through the door and bite into the backing plate. Use a little silicon or 5 minute epoxy to stick the backing in place inside the door skin aligned with the three 1/4" holes already drilled. I had a hell of a time trying to hold that backing plate while the sheet metal screws took hold. I finally ended up using 5 minute epoxy so I could start all three screws before torqueing them down. Use the backing plate for your template. The right hand mirror locates farther towards the rear of the truck door so the wing window pillar doesn't obstruct your view from the driver seat. Good luck!
__________________
Michael of the clan Hill,
"Two Seventy Two's"
71 1-ton Dually 350 4-Speed
71 C/50 Grain Truck, 350 Split-Axle 4-Speed
02 3/4 ton Express
14 Indian Chief Vintage
1952 Ford 8N, "Only Ford Allowed On The Property"
"Be American, Buy American"
Ironangel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2020, 12:40 AM   #6
71CHEVYSHORTBED402
Senior Member
 
71CHEVYSHORTBED402's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Northern Nevada
Posts: 7,329
Re: Sport mirror mounting screws

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee H View Post
No, was not a sheet metal screw. It is GM part number 9419728. It is a 14-20X7/8, stainless steel screw. GM used this fastener on many cars in many places in the 60s & 70's. They can be found on fleabay. The new old stock backing plate have the threads, the repops do not.
The screw type and plate depends. I believe the original plates had nuts, the GM replacements did not, though even some of their old mirror kits were set up for tap screws. Personally I like the nutted version much better.

Discovered those screws your showing had two different types of heads. Philips and I can't remember if it's a star or alan, but I'm pretty sure they take an alan wrench (Correction, Torx head). Otherwise they're the same screw, stainless steel. Guy I got them from thinks the phillips head came later. (Correction - Torx followed Philips) )
__________________
Tony
71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assembly kit for restoring the (a) truck from the ground up. My build thread, and more on the assembly kit https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025

Last edited by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402; 06-21-2020 at 06:20 PM.
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2020, 01:03 AM   #7
gmc684x4
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Whitehorse yukon
Posts: 1,218
Re: Sport mirror mounting screws

My 68 truck stock mirrors are Philips head machine bolts like pictured
i would have to look as a young fella when the glass fell out off roading I took them off

looking into a hot rod build what was my original intention for the 68 low and fast broke young guy i was I got into 4x4ing and made her into a 4x4
gmc684x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2020, 02:08 AM   #8
71CHEVYSHORTBED402
Senior Member
 
71CHEVYSHORTBED402's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Northern Nevada
Posts: 7,329
Re: Sport mirror mounting screws

Come to think of it, by the looks of the backing plate in post 2 there were at least two types of threaded nuts as well. Those are posts for lack of a better description, the nuts on my plates are square.
__________________
Tony
71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assembly kit for restoring the (a) truck from the ground up. My build thread, and more on the assembly kit https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2020, 03:02 AM   #9
Richard
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Southern California
Posts: 2,896
Re: Sport mirror mounting screws

Have a pair of GM backing plates that look the ones in post 2 post by Lee H. I purchased around the year 2000 from a local dealer. Punched with a machine thread. They are GM, still have the labels on them. I think the original design had nuts welded on though. Have seen them. Purchased stainless torx screws to mount my mirrors. Torx would have never been used that far back. Aftermarket backing plates I have seen are punched for a sheet metal screw. Like the speed clips on dash, instrument panel etc.
__________________
Richard
1972 K10 Custom Deluxe SWB Fleetside
My build https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=800746
Richard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2020, 11:19 AM   #10
54blackhornet
Registered User
 
54blackhornet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Eastern Oregon
Posts: 2,393
Re: Sport mirror mounting screws

The backing plates where still attached to my 71 GMC even though the sport mirrors removed for West Coast JR’s. Both have captured nuts fitted to them. The plates are original equipment to vehicle.
__________________
71 C-20
07 Magnum RT AWD
54blackhornet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2020, 06:18 PM   #11
71CHEVYSHORTBED402
Senior Member
 
71CHEVYSHORTBED402's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Northern Nevada
Posts: 7,329
Re: Sport mirror mounting screws

Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard View Post
Have a pair of GM backing plates that look the ones in post 2 post by Lee H. I purchased around the year 2000 from a local dealer. Punched with a machine thread. They are GM, still have the labels on them. I think the original design had nuts welded on though. Have seen them. Purchased stainless torx screws to mount my mirrors. Torx would have never been used that far back. Aftermarket backing plates I have seen are punched for a sheet metal screw. Like the speed clips on dash, instrument panel etc.
Right, Torx head. And I agree, Torx followed Phillips. After another glance the part number succeeded the old one too.

And I agree, the original was a square nut welded on the plate, same style as the fixed nuts you find for body bolts.

I have (had?) NOS plates with the stickers still on for a tap screw. Part number 6263291-2. Found a website that shows three part numbers (two replacements), 6263291 is the later version (July 1972).
Attached Images
 
__________________
Tony
71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assembly kit for restoring the (a) truck from the ground up. My build thread, and more on the assembly kit https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025

Last edited by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402; 06-21-2020 at 06:44 PM.
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2020, 06:13 PM   #12
FL71C10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 2,509
Re: Sport mirror mounting screws

Here is a reply from GMC Paul's to my question:

Hi, John
All of the reproduction 1970-72 sport mirrors use the 3rd and final version of GM backing plate that was made that uses sheet metal screws instead of machine screws. There are still some NOS GM mirror backing plates floating around that uses the machine screws, but be aware there are also 2 different versions of these, the 1st version they welded a nut to mirror bracket or pressed it into place and tacked welded it also, the other version they pressed the metal hole opening slightly small and then made machine screw threads in the distorted raised metal from punching the hole. The 2nd version is known for having the bracket threads distort and strip out easily. So if you look to locate NOS mirror brackets I strongly suggest you get the captured / welded nut version. Hope this helps. Thanks for your interest and We Hope 2020 finds you Blessed with Health, Happiness & Prosperity and will continue to find you so!
My Best Regards
Sky @ GMCPauls
__________________
71 Chevy C10 Shortbed Stepside. LT1 with
4l60E. Just got back from painter, in assembly now.
FL71C10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2020, 06:28 PM   #13
DeadheadNM
Carpe manana

 
DeadheadNM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Eau Claire, WI
Posts: 12,449
Re: Sport mirror mounting screws

The NOS mirrors on my Blazer came w sheet metal screws and the instructions were dated 1971 - interestingly, the instructs were for a "G"series truck.

Here's an example photo of the screws (period NOS) I used and the (later run NOS) backing plates I used: https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...94&postcount=2

Either screws or bolts are probably correct
__________________
1972 K5 CST Highlander Blazer: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=708547
1972 K20 Cheyenne Super: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=528308

Members met: ORANGBLAZ, 2003 silverado, MikeCofield, BB72CHEVKT, Duncan&Son, Sameyrasmea72, THENEWMEXICAN, HotRod C/10, brianthelion02, Sport/Truck, ryanroo, michael bustamante, Dirt's72, Already Gone, WestButteTruck, 57taskforce, Moreyel, painterljp, AASmedic, SoCoC10, Lumaestas, carbuff382, Chevyland

Last edited by DeadheadNM; 06-22-2020 at 07:44 PM. Reason: clarified
DeadheadNM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2020, 08:55 PM   #14
Lee H
Registered User
 
Lee H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Upland Ca
Posts: 4,147
Re: Sport mirror mounting screws

Great information, thanks for posting GMCPaul’s response.
__________________
1972 C10 SWB, Air, PS, PB, 350/350THM. Second owner.

1965 Corvette roadster, 44K miles, 327/365 SHP, 4 speed, side exhaust, knockoffs, teak, second owner (bought in 1970), Have ALL numbers matching components.

My frame off restoration thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=556703
Lee H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2020, 04:39 PM   #15
57larry
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 1,161
Re: Sport mirror mounting screws

good info on mirrors, thanks
57larry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2020, 12:29 AM   #16
71CHEVYSHORTBED402
Senior Member
 
71CHEVYSHORTBED402's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Northern Nevada
Posts: 7,329
Re: Sport mirror mounting screws

Sometimes we go pretty deep on stuff, it's pretty cool. Keep it up we'll be Mopar Nerds It's easy to understand why they like em.

I've been through a lot of cars, but only one Mopar, 75 Dart. Fun car I guess, only a 318. Sounded like a jet plane warming up. Ten minutes to warm up too, otherwise it would die on me. Without knowing much about them, if I could choose a car it would be a Mopar, the car in this picture would suit me fine.

Personally I'm so-so vintage Chevy passenger cars, much rather a Pontiac. It's just that vintage Chevy trucks are best
Attached Images
 
__________________
Tony
71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assembly kit for restoring the (a) truck from the ground up. My build thread, and more on the assembly kit https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com