****which Year Internal Reg Alt. Do I Want For The 69 Coversion - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

*rage'nrat638* · 12-19-2003, 09:19 PM

READY TO BUT A INTERNAL REGULATED ALT. FOR MY 69 SMALL BLOCK....WHAT DO I ORDER ,,,,FOR THIS CONVERSION???

cableguy0 · 12-19-2003, 09:21 PM

just order one of the one wire deals from summit jegs or any of them all of em are chevy alternators with the 12-6 clock position which means it will fit in your bracket then the wiring is up to u

*rage'nrat638* · 12-19-2003, 09:26 PM

WELL JASON ..racedvl did one that was a stock alt.w/ internal regulator,,and jumper the external reg ...and used the old wires...was kind of thinking of that deal....
got a gift cert. and can only use at express auto parts...
so summits out

any body else done this?

ratrod67 · 12-19-2003, 09:43 PM

I'd like to know as well. My truck has been wired for the newer alt but I can't find one that uses the plug I have and is clocked right.

cableguy0 · 12-20-2003, 12:46 AM

you can get a pigtail to adapt just about anything. go look at an alternator for a 95 or so truck or tahoe im pretty sure they are at 12 and 6 and are a one wire from what i remember. you will just have to swap the pullies mark. the wiring on these trucks is very simple anyways not hard to adapt things in.ratrod just change the wiring if you find one with the right clock position

Cat Fuzz · 12-20-2003, 12:59 AM

Just re-clock it! It's easy, just don't lose the brushes when they come flying out.

*racedvl* · 12-20-2003, 01:50 AM

Ok. I used a alt out of a 1979 suburban. You need the pig tail for that year alt, and of course that alt. Then you just have to install the new style pig tail in place of the old one. Then jump the wires at the regulator like in the picture. And walla!! Internal city.

As far as thast pig tail wiring goes you want to picture the alts side by side and replace the wire on the left, with the one on the left, and the one on the right with the one on the right. Keep it same side by side. Make sence? If not let me know.

I have had my truck wired this way for about 4 years now and have not had a single problem.

*racedvl* · 12-20-2003, 01:52 AM

Oh and by the way, at the regulator, that is just 2 wires that have spade terminals on each end. And use a dielectric grease on them before you crimp them to keep corrsion out.

*racedvl* · 12-20-2003, 01:53 AM

And here is my alt.

**PICKMUP** · 12-20-2003, 02:04 AM

This kit is a "plug & play" installation. No wires to cut, no plugs to go find, no jumpers to make. Just plug it into a 73 & newer Chev alternator. Email me if you would like one.

73stepside · 12-20-2003, 08:42 AM

i got mine from a 79 suburban and used a plug from autozone and eliminated a bunch of useless wiring. it works great

**Warrens69GMC** · 12-21-2003, 01:50 AM

We did a long waterpump conversion and used a old 63 amp alternator. The one interesting thing is this:
early int. alternators are 63 amp
78- 86 alternators could be wired up to 78 amp
The 84 camaro used an optional 94 amp alternator that is the same 10si case and has the traditional 1v belt.
If you want the camaro alt, ask for it at the parts house. Usually its at thier warehouse store. ( part no#7294)
warrens69gmc

*rage'nrat638* · 12-21-2003, 01:56 AM

thanks warrens69 gmc..................
very interesting fact inded....,
will check that out

AC DELCO
1101307 [Generator] 94 Amp $416.00 $278.11 each

AC DELCO REBUILT
321-247 [Alternator] Reman; 78 Amp; VIN H; w/A/C only $162.68 $106.89 exchange

(NOTE: Core Price - $17.58)

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321-266 [Alternator] Reman; 94 Amp; VIN G; Hi-Perf. $180.54 $118.62 exchange

(NOTE: Core Price - $17.58)

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321-38 [Alternator] Reman; 42 Amp; VIN H; w/o A/C $104.00 $68.34 exchange

(NOTE: Core Price - $17.58)

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AMPERE AUTOMOTIVE
7131-3 [Alternator] Amps: 94; Pulley: 1V; Position: 3:00 $170.02 $98.04 exchange

(NOTE: Core Price - $10.23)

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BECK/ARNLEY
186-6013 [REMAN ALTERNATOR] 63 Amp; One V-Belt; WO/Air conditioner.; $100.08 $71.97 exchange

(NOTE: Core Price - $15.34)

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186-6023 [REMAN ALTERNATOR] 78 Amp; One V-Belt; W/Air conditioner.; $135.69 $97.57 exchange

(NOTE: Core Price - $33.23)

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186-6039 [REMAN ALTERNATOR] 94 Amp; One V-Belt; ; Heavy duty. $163.48 $117.55 exchange

(NOTE: Core Price - $43.46)

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BOSCH
AL559X [Alternator] Reman. Repl.; High Perf.; 94 Amps Delco Remy System, Plug Config. DR1, Inter. Reg. $143.25 $102.98 exchange

(NOTE: Core Price - $63.91)

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JASCO QUALITY IMPORTS
7117-3 [Alternator] Reman.; w/o A/C; Amp. 63; Pulley Config.: 1V; Use V Reg. {VR668} $86.12 $49.66 exchange

(NOTE: Core Price - $10.23)

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7126-12 [Alternator] Reman.; Opt. O/S Alt.; Amp. 85; Pulley Config.: 1V; Use V Reg. {VR668} $174.79 $100.79 exchange

(NOTE: Core Price - $10.23)

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7129-3 [Alternator] Reman.; A/C; Amp. 78; Pulley Config.: 1V; Use V Reg. {VR668} $144.42 $83.28 exchange

(NOTE: Core Price - $10.23)

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7131-12 [Alternator] Reman.; Opt. HD Alt.; Amp. 94; Pulley Config.: 1V; Use V Reg. {VR668} $170.02 $98.04 exchange

(NOTE: Core Price - $10.23)

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7133-3 [Alternator] Reman.; Opt. HD Alt.; Amp. 108; Use V Reg. {VR668} $191.63 $110.50 exchange

(NOTE: Core Price - $44.74)

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PACIFIC ALTERNATOR & STARTER
7294-3 [Alternator] Delco/Remy; 94 Amp.; PIC #240-308-3; HO; Verify VIN $143.50 $91.78 exchange

(NOTE: Core Price - $38.35)

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USA INDUSTRIES ELECTRICAL PRODUCTS
7137-3 [Alternator] 70-85 Amp.; Opt. $0.00 $81.81 exchange

(NOTE: Core Price - $21.73)

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7273-3 [Alternator] 42-78 Amp.; Std. $0.00 $84.36 exchange

(NOTE: Core Price - $35.79)

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mark

miket · 12-21-2003, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rage'nrat638
READY TO BUT A INTERNAL REGULATED ALT. FOR MY 69 SMALL BLOCK....WHAT DO I ORDER ,,,,FOR THIS CONVERSION???

Mark,

You want to use a 10SI Alternator. If you have an old one, buy the parts to rebuild it....then when it's apart, you can spray can the case for detailing. I ordered my rebuild parts from here and I upgraded to 140 amp. It didn't cost much and it was easy.

I then bought a pigatil for athe alternator and to bypass the old regulator from these guys

Good luck.

12-19-2003, 09:19 PM	#1
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	****which Year Internal Reg Alt. Do I Want For The 69 Coversion READY TO BUT A INTERNAL REGULATED ALT. FOR MY 69 SMALL BLOCK....WHAT DO I ORDER ,,,,FOR THIS CONVERSION???

12-20-2003, 12:46 AM	#5
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,948	you can get a pigtail to adapt just about anything. go look at an alternator for a 95 or so truck or tahoe im pretty sure they are at 12 and 6 and are a one wire from what i remember. you will just have to swap the pullies mark. the wiring on these trucks is very simple anyways not hard to adapt things in.ratrod just change the wiring if you find one with the right clock position __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

12-20-2003, 01:53 AM	#9
racedvl Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Woodstock, IL Posts: 7,020	And here is my alt. Attached Images

12-20-2003, 02:04 AM	#10
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,158	This kit is a "plug & play" installation. No wires to cut, no plugs to go find, no jumpers to make. Just plug it into a 73 & newer Chev alternator. Email me if you would like one. Attached Images __________________ Email: frankeham@comcast.net Phone: 360-956-7170

12-20-2003, 08:42 AM	#11
73stepside Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Moore OK 73160 Posts: 974	i got mine from a 79 suburban and used a plug from autozone and eliminated a bunch of useless wiring. it works great __________________ 04 GMC Sierra RCSS 70 CST LWB 04 HD Sportster 1200 Custom

12-19-2003, 09:21 PM	#2
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,948	just order one of the one wire deals from summit jegs or any of them all of em are chevy alternators with the 12-6 clock position which means it will fit in your bracket then the wiring is up to u __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

12-19-2003, 09:26 PM	#3
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	WELL JASON ..racedvl did one that was a stock alt.w/ internal regulator,,and jumper the external reg ...and used the old wires...was kind of thinking of that deal.... got a gift cert. and can only use at express auto parts... so summits out any body else done this?

12-19-2003, 09:43 PM	#4
ratrod67 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 2,269	I'd like to know as well. My truck has been wired for the newer alt but I can't find one that uses the plug I have and is clocked right.

12-20-2003, 12:59 AM	#6
Cat Fuzz My son, my joy. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 463	Just re-clock it! It's easy, just don't lose the brushes when they come flying out.

12-20-2003, 01:50 AM	#7
racedvl Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Woodstock, IL Posts: 7,020	Ok. I used a alt out of a 1979 suburban. You need the pig tail for that year alt, and of course that alt. Then you just have to install the new style pig tail in place of the old one. Then jump the wires at the regulator like in the picture. And walla!! Internal city. As far as thast pig tail wiring goes you want to picture the alts side by side and replace the wire on the left, with the one on the left, and the one on the right with the one on the right. Keep it same side by side. Make sence? If not let me know. I have had my truck wired this way for about 4 years now and have not had a single problem. Attached Images

12-20-2003, 01:52 AM	#8
racedvl Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Woodstock, IL Posts: 7,020	Oh and by the way, at the regulator, that is just 2 wires that have spade terminals on each end. And use a dielectric grease on them before you crimp them to keep corrsion out.

12-21-2003, 01:50 AM	#12
Warrens69GMC Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Safford,AZ Posts: 3,625	alternators We did a long waterpump conversion and used a old 63 amp alternator. The one interesting thing is this: early int. alternators are 63 amp 78- 86 alternators could be wired up to 78 amp The 84 camaro used an optional 94 amp alternator that is the same 10si case and has the traditional 1v belt. If you want the camaro alt, ask for it at the parts house. Usually its at thier warehouse store. ( part no#7294) warrens69gmc

12-21-2003, 01:56 AM	#13
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	thanks warrens69 gmc.................. very interesting fact inded...., will check that out AC DELCO 1101307 [Generator] 94 Amp $416.00 $278.11 each AC DELCO REBUILT 321-247 [Alternator] Reman; 78 Amp; VIN H; w/A/C only $162.68 $106.89 exchange (NOTE: Core Price - $17.58) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 321-266 [Alternator] Reman; 94 Amp; VIN G; Hi-Perf. $180.54 $118.62 exchange (NOTE: Core Price - $17.58) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 321-38 [Alternator] Reman; 42 Amp; VIN H; w/o A/C $104.00 $68.34 exchange (NOTE: Core Price - $17.58) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AMPERE AUTOMOTIVE 7131-3 [Alternator] Amps: 94; Pulley: 1V; Position: 3:00 $170.02 $98.04 exchange (NOTE: Core Price - $10.23) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BECK/ARNLEY 186-6013 [REMAN ALTERNATOR] 63 Amp; One V-Belt; WO/Air conditioner.; $100.08 $71.97 exchange (NOTE: Core Price - $15.34) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 186-6023 [REMAN ALTERNATOR] 78 Amp; One V-Belt; W/Air conditioner.; $135.69 $97.57 exchange (NOTE: Core Price - $33.23) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 186-6039 [REMAN ALTERNATOR] 94 Amp; One V-Belt; ; Heavy duty. $163.48 $117.55 exchange (NOTE: Core Price - $43.46) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BOSCH AL559X [Alternator] Reman. Repl.; High Perf.; 94 Amps Delco Remy System, Plug Config. DR1, Inter. Reg. $143.25 $102.98 exchange (NOTE: Core Price - $63.91) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JASCO QUALITY IMPORTS 7117-3 [Alternator] Reman.; w/o A/C; Amp. 63; Pulley Config.: 1V; Use V Reg. {VR668} $86.12 $49.66 exchange (NOTE: Core Price - $10.23) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7126-12 [Alternator] Reman.; Opt. O/S Alt.; Amp. 85; Pulley Config.: 1V; Use V Reg. {VR668} $174.79 $100.79 exchange (NOTE: Core Price - $10.23) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7129-3 [Alternator] Reman.; A/C; Amp. 78; Pulley Config.: 1V; Use V Reg. {VR668} $144.42 $83.28 exchange (NOTE: Core Price - $10.23) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7131-12 [Alternator] Reman.; Opt. HD Alt.; Amp. 94; Pulley Config.: 1V; Use V Reg. {VR668} $170.02 $98.04 exchange (NOTE: Core Price - $10.23) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7133-3 [Alternator] Reman.; Opt. HD Alt.; Amp. 108; Use V Reg. {VR668} $191.63 $110.50 exchange (NOTE: Core Price - $44.74) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PACIFIC ALTERNATOR & STARTER 7294-3 [Alternator] Delco/Remy; 94 Amp.; PIC #240-308-3; HO; Verify VIN $143.50 $91.78 exchange (NOTE: Core Price - $38.35) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- USA INDUSTRIES ELECTRICAL PRODUCTS 7137-3 [Alternator] 70-85 Amp.; Opt. $0.00 $81.81 exchange (NOTE: Core Price - $21.73) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7273-3 [Alternator] 42-78 Amp.; Std. $0.00 $84.36 exchange (NOTE: Core Price - $35.79) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mark Last edited by rage'nrat638; 12-21-2003 at 02:08 AM.



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