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HOTFUN · 12-26-2003, 11:21 PM

Need help identifying an original 1967 non tilt automatic column

Since I had always been just into 71-72's this original 67 stuff is very remote for me for originality. Since I had frame up restored a number matching 66 Chevy pickup a few years back and just recently aquired a new 67 project to do the same, I have noticed some apparently 1 year only stuff on the 67.
Are the automatic steering columns used in 67's a 1 year only style or is 68, 68, and 70 the same? I realize the powerglide indicator is different but is the column the same all these years and maybe the indicator/ shifter bowl changed in the 71-72? Also is the automatic shift lever different for 67 and also is it different from the 3 speed manual lever? I plan to start searching for an original 67 column for a turbohydramatic and want it to be 100% correct for the 67 year. If the 67-70 are the same it will make this a lot easier to find.

Thanks for any help shed on this subject.
Mark

**john** · 12-27-2003, 09:37 PM

I cant help with all your questions but 67's had a one piece shaft to the steering box. The later have a collapsible shaft inbetween.

walker · 12-27-2003, 10:33 PM

John, I'll have to nix that about the one piece shaft. My stock '67 has the collapsable column/shaft. I believe it was the first year for it. Could have been a mid year change though. BTW my truck was my Grandads so I know the column/shaft has not been changed.

cableguy0 · 12-27-2003, 10:38 PM

its possible that some of em had solid shafts and some collapsable because it was around that time the federal gov't forced to automakers to put collapsable shafts in all vehicles for safety

Longhorn Man · 12-28-2003, 03:21 AM

69 was actually the year that the feds mandated it...a 67 with it seems kinda odd to me, I have seen plenty of 68s with the solid shaft in them.

HOTFUN · 12-28-2003, 03:30 AM

I have seen 67 literature listing the new safety features which showed the 2 piece rag joint column. I also remember that somewhere during the early model they used the old drag link style linkage and the frame was not notched for the new version steering gear box. So is the mid year 67, 68, 69, and 70 column the same?

**CPNE** · 12-28-2003, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HOTFUN
So is the mid year 67, 68, 69, and 70 column the same?

Column, pointer/indicator, and shift lever yes, but as mentioned the shaft could either be 1 piece or 2 piece with an intermediate shaft.

HOTFUN · 12-29-2003, 02:46 AM

Thanks Jeff
That should be very easy to locate then as a lot more automatics started showing up in 69 and 70 it seems.

Mark

12-26-2003, 11:21 PM	#1
HOTFUN Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,145	67 Experts: original automatic column ??? Need help identifying an original 1967 non tilt automatic column Since I had always been just into 71-72's this original 67 stuff is very remote for me for originality. Since I had frame up restored a number matching 66 Chevy pickup a few years back and just recently aquired a new 67 project to do the same, I have noticed some apparently 1 year only stuff on the 67. Are the automatic steering columns used in 67's a 1 year only style or is 68, 68, and 70 the same? I realize the powerglide indicator is different but is the column the same all these years and maybe the indicator/ shifter bowl changed in the 71-72? Also is the automatic shift lever different for 67 and also is it different from the 3 speed manual lever? I plan to start searching for an original 67 column for a turbohydramatic and want it to be 100% correct for the 67 year. If the 67-70 are the same it will make this a lot easier to find. Thanks for any help shed on this subject. Mark __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed"

12-27-2003, 09:37 PM	#2
john member #16 Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Yuba City Ca. Posts: 3,618	I cant help with all your questions but 67's had a one piece shaft to the steering box. The later have a collapsible shaft inbetween. __________________ john http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showgroups.php board vendors http://www.flickr.com/photos/1745471...7602865984234/

12-27-2003, 10:33 PM	#3
walker Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: north of Phx AZ about 30 miles Posts: 698	John, I'll have to nix that about the one piece shaft. My stock '67 has the collapsable column/shaft. I believe it was the first year for it. Could have been a mid year change though. BTW my truck was my Grandads so I know the column/shaft has not been changed. __________________ Andy,Phx AZ '67 C-10 (Ahhh, done at last. Well there is that disk front end I want to put in and...) "23 C-Cab-sold '48 Ford 8N tractor(still working) '67 Scout(Now on the road) '70 MG B.-sold

12-27-2003, 10:38 PM	#4
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,950	its possible that some of em had solid shafts and some collapsable because it was around that time the federal gov't forced to automakers to put collapsable shafts in all vehicles for safety __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

12-28-2003, 03:30 AM	#6
HOTFUN Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,145	I have seen 67 literature listing the new safety features which showed the 2 piece rag joint column. I also remember that somewhere during the early model they used the old drag link style linkage and the frame was not notched for the new version steering gear box. So is the mid year 67, 68, 69, and 70 column the same? __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed"

12-28-2003, 03:21 AM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	69 was actually the year that the feds mandated it...a 67 with it seems kinda odd to me, I have seen plenty of 68s with the solid shaft in them.

12-29-2003, 02:46 AM	#8
HOTFUN Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,145	Thanks Jeff That should be very easy to locate then as a lot more automatics started showing up in 69 and 70 it seems. Mark __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed"



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