01-10-2023, 08:47 AM | #1 |
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What do you reckon is the number one reason guys abort their restorations/restomods? It seems to happen quite often. I'm am still trying to decide whether I want to take on a 67 restomod, I don't want to sink a bunch of money into it only to give up and sell. Which I guess would be ok if I got a good price, I would still learn a lot in the process.
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01-10-2023, 09:34 AM | #2 |
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Running out of money and patience.
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01-10-2023, 09:45 AM | #3 |
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Underestimating the cost.
Overestimating your talent. Underestimating the amount of time it will take. I have built several trucks and I still have problems with the above issues. PS> Just because you can buy an LS engine and transmission for $1500 and you have a set of wheels and tires in the garage doesn't mean you can build a resto-mod for under $20,000. |
01-10-2023, 09:46 AM | #4 |
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Life. Something always comes up.
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01-10-2023, 10:06 AM | #5 |
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Running out of money , high parts and shipping costs , dry storage , 60 gallon plus air compressor , blast cabinet , welder, tools , Project creep , relying on help from friends , Free time to work on your project , Staying on budget , having a realistic time frame . I've taken breaks from working on mine for 6 months at a time I didn't walk into the garage waiting on parts . Did I say project creep ?
Did I mention having a wife or girlfriend tht is ok with your every minute and spare dollar going into your project and time spent in the garage ?
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01-10-2023, 10:28 AM | #6 |
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Getting in over their head.
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01-10-2023, 10:49 AM | #7 |
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Could be a lot of reasons to bail out. But here are a couple reasons for losing interest
* Not realizing all that is involved until getting into it * Not sincerely wanting it enough in the first place. It takes dedication, patience, and a lot of effort. It takes more than just wanting it or having the money. * Come to realize you're not actually a man and... (edited)
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01-10-2023, 11:18 AM | #8 |
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This sums up everything in the posts ahead of it nicely. My truck is FAR from a beauty queen and from the day it was delivered on a trailer until it was road worthy was three years. There were times it went untouched for weeks due to time/part/$$ availability. Luckily, I have a shop where it could sit without being in the way. In the same timeframe if I'd have had more money and outsourced it, I could have a complete, slick truck.
Scope creep seems to get us all. These photos are a perfect example of it. I was going to clean up and install some drop springs. Yeah right. This turned into a couple months of work (on my time availability) for shock relocation, new bearings and seals in rear end, totally new brakes, etc. Second photo is after done. I was very pleased with it at this point but at least once or twice I questioned myself. Many times folks get in too deep to see the way out. It comes apart once piece at a time and goes back together the same way. The front was sort of the same but I knew I was rebuilding everything and converting to discs so scope creep didn't hit but the time to tear it all out, clean, paint, and rebuild wasn't a single weekend. BUT, at the end of the day other than tire mounting, front end alignment, and windshield install, I did everything myself. This was my 25th anniversary present from my wife and I took her to dinner for our 28th in it. We have put about 600 miles on it since last May 2022. I have a running list of items to still do to it but it runs and drives. At some point down the road it will get blown apart for rust repair, body work, and paint but for now I am just enjoying driving it.
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01-10-2023, 02:27 PM | #9 |
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One thing that can be a really discouraging is when a particularly time-consuming or expensive step of a project doesn't turn out as you had hoped. Having to redo something that you thought you were done with can be a challenge mentally. I hate to admit the number of things I've had to do over on my truck. I've had the steering column out six or seven times in the last two years. I rebuilt two rear ends because the first gearset was noisy. I replaced my engine after spending countless hours replacing gaskets and seals on the previous one. The list goes on and on.
One thing that helps me is to limit the amount of down time with each project. I get my truck driving again so I can enjoy it for a while before doing the next project. When I first bought it, it needed a bunch of body work due to an accident by a previous owner. I drove it around for a few months with no grille and a substitute fender while the parts were at the body shop. |
01-10-2023, 03:25 PM | #10 |
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Money, plain and simple.
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01-10-2023, 03:35 PM | #11 |
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Money, space, a lack of tools and not really knowing how to use them if you have them. When the wife is complaining because the garage is full of parts and there's dust bunnies growing under your project. The list goes on.
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01-10-2023, 04:42 PM | #12 |
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Fatigue.
And significant others. I'm lucky that my wife loves my Blazer and wants me to make it as nice as it can be. Not everyone is so fortunate.
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01-10-2023, 04:46 PM | #13 |
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My take has always been...Unless you have done a COMPLETE frame off restoration, the average person has not a clue as to the time/commitment, knowledge/steps, patience/setbacks, money and wifey conditions they are getting into. Just my .02 cents worth.
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01-10-2023, 06:08 PM | #14 |
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Two words: wife, children. Both can seriously impact your budget and put the brakes on your project. I have seen a lot of unfinished projects for sale because the owner has a kid on the way.
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01-10-2023, 07:16 PM | #15 |
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I have bought 6 abandoned projects and finished them out since 2004, plus a couple of trucks I have built from the frame up. There is some good money to be made by doing this, or at least there was. With the price of paint and parts now, I'm not sure a person could do as well in this day and age.... I like to buy them pretty much rust free or at least with the body work done, and being painted is a big bonus. Abandoned projects bought and finished out: 1967 Chevy Stepside 1972 GMC long bed 1971 Chevy long bed 4x4 1969 Suburban 1970 Chevy Longhorn 4x4 1967 Chevy Panel Truck One thing I would like to make clear on this is that during this time I had no kids at home and I was retired. That makes all the difference in the world. If the sheet metal and cab supports are in good shape I would say go ahead and buy it. If you can buy it at a decent price you should be able to get your money back out of it about any time..... Just my 2¢ worth. LockDoc
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01-10-2023, 08:38 PM | #16 |
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For me, it’s TIME.
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01-10-2023, 10:14 PM | #17 |
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All the above.
Until you have built a rig from the ground up, it's impossible to appreciate the scope of work involved, and how painfully slow it can be.
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01-10-2023, 10:37 PM | #18 |
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Many folks can do the basic mechanical work. Frame off resto's are not for everyone.
What kills many projects is "paint jail". No offense to body shop owners but body shops that get busy with insurance work the resto projects take a back seat. It's a simple profit margin thing. I've bought a few failed projects. I would never buy a rusty project unless you have skills to do the rust repair. Another thing that can kill a project is that once they become drivers the old truck drives like an old truck. Depending on the build the old trucks don't brake or handle anywhere near like a modern truck. |
01-10-2023, 11:43 PM | #19 |
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I will add to All of the Above.
#1reason for (Slow or Abort) is Your dependents/ (Wife and ____) If you are having 2nd thoughts about this Project. Do not start. Until you are Happy with where this project will go. It will finish Over the top or you can sell it for parts or Somewhere in between. If this is your Heart's desire. Go For It. You will not regret it. I have 7 different projects going at any givin Time. I need to Slow down. I still go to Swap-Meets and Trucks shows. I help my nephew with his Square body truck. My suggestion is Getter-Done and just enjoy the ride
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01-11-2023, 08:09 AM | #20 |
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Here's something ironic. My forever '67 short bed project was originally to be for my wife. She supported me in my truck activities. She left so I'm building it for me now, and nothing has been happening. If she hadn't left she would have badgered me into having it done a long time ago .
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Don't rely on your friends to help. I have seen many times were the friends come over all enthused & help tear it down & drink all your beer. Then when you say "ok guys its time to put it back together" all of a sudden every one has some excuse why they can't make it.
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