'72 C10. Or is it?

[desert-rat]

So I bought the '72 like 2 weeks ago. I didn't bother running the VIN. It looked like a C10 so I bought it. I ran the VIN and it comes back as a C20. But the VIN sticker on the door is different coming back as a C10. So I'm thinking the cab was swapped out before. It has C10 style cab bushings., 5 lug rims, think a C10 axle, it rides like a C10, the rear leafs springs are 4 per side without a helper spring I believe.
What else will say C10? Does that picture look like a C10 sxle? Thanks.

[special-K]

Net weight on door jamb. As far as being '72, is there an extra C starting the VIN off?

[desert-rat]

Originally Posted by special-K

Net weight on door jamb. As far as being '72, is there an extra C starting the VIN off?

Yes. CCxxxxxx

[desert-rat]

Originally Posted by special-K

Net weight on door jamb. As far as being '72, is there an extra C starting the VIN off?

The sticker on the driver door is also CCxxxxxx.
But different VIN #s.

[72c20customcamper]

Originally Posted by desert-rat

So I bought the '72 like 2 weeks ago. I didn't bother running the VIN. It looked like a C10 so I bought it. I ran the VIN and it comes back as a C20. But the VIN sticker on the door is different coming back as a C10. So I'm thinking the cab was swapped out before. It has C10 style cab bushings., 5 lug rims, think a C10 axle, it rides like a C10, the rear leafs springs are 4 per side without a helper spring I believe.
What else will say C10? Does that picture look like a C10 sxle? Thanks.

Where are these two conflicting vins ? If it’s the glovebox door and door post vins I would go by what the post vin says . Anything not welded is easily changed like doors and fenders

[Wrenchbender Ret]

The rear end is a C10.

George

[chevmn]

Most importantly, does title vin match any vin on the truck? There is also a vin on frame -- if memory serves I believe on driver side on top near the steering box, but likely tough to find, especially if rust and paint over.

[desert-rat]

Originally Posted by 72c20customcamper

Where are these two conflicting vins ? If it’s the glovebox door and door post vins I would go by what the post vin says . Anything not welded is easily changed like doors and fenders

The glove box door VIN and driver door VIN matches. The body VIN is different from the two.

[desert-rat]

Originally Posted by chevmn

Most importantly, does title vin match any vin on the truck? There is also a vin on frame -- if memory serves I believe on driver side on top near the steering box, but likely tough to find, especially if rust and paint over.

The title matches the VIN on the body. Which shows a 3/4 ton which here in California I would have to pay extra fees for weight. Yes, full size trucks have a weight and commercial fees with the registration.

[72c20customcamper]

Originally Posted by desert-rat

The glove box door VIN and driver door VIN matches. The body VIN is different from the two.

Door vin ? None of my trucks has the sticker left on them . So it's safe to assume the cab was changed and the original doors and glovebox were installed. So does your title match the post vin or the glovebox ?

[desert-rat]

Originally Posted by 72c20customcamper

Door vin ? None of my trucks has the sticker left on them . So it's safe to assume the cab was changed and the original doors and glovebox were installed. So does your title match the post vin or the glovebox ?

I was surprised to see the door sticker VIN.
Title matches the post VIN.

[michael bustamante]

look at the rivits holding the plate in the door jamb. are the rosette rivits? if not then the tag and the glovebox have been changed

[72c20customcamper]

Originally Posted by desert-rat

I was surprised to see the door sticker VIN.
Title matches the post VIN.

Sounds like a swap . Interested in seeing the partial on the frame rail to see what it matches .

[Louisvillekytruck]

Show pics of all the numbers and the truck

[jocko]

yes, pls post pics of the VIN (blacking out the last 6 #s, the serial, if you'd like) for the SPID, Door Sticker, and Cab VIN Plate. We can make a more educated guess with all the evidence in one post.

[desert-rat]

So I figured it out. Thanks to everyone for helping. Thanks chevmn for mentioning where the VIN was at on the frame. Had to rub off a good layer of grime.
So the frame, door sticker, and glove box match revealing a 1971 C10. The cab VIN shows a 1972 C20 which that is what's registered. Here's the SPID which doesn't even match the cab now. 😆
Sorry, someone mentioned blanking out a portion of the VIN for some reason. Not sure if it's a big deal or not.

[desert-rat]

Here's what was revealed when I ran the VIN. Screen shot of my cell.

[jocko]

You have a little bit bigger problem than mismatched VIN #s. Incorrect cab VIN rivets may make registering/titling it a pain. Where I lived in SoCal (also in the mojave), the DMV folks would walk to the truck to visually check the VIN. Pop rivets can mean CHP gets pulled in - I'd go to DMV and see what they say before I'd spend another dime on the truck. Was it an out of state purchase? I'd absolutely ask the seller about this also.

Keep us posted, I hope this works out ok.

And I'm with you on the CA commercial fee for an open-bed light duty truck. It really used to bug me that I had to pay the commercial tag fee on my 1/2 ton swb 66 with a bed I could eat off of (and had to get it weighed like it was a semi-truck or something...) - I wasn't hauling anything with that truck and it was obvious. I REALLY liked living in the desert there - but I do not miss CA.

You are not decoding the VIN correctly - and your decoder is for GMC, not Chev.
Your SPID VIN, CCE142S= 72 1/2 ton V8 from St Louis
Your metal VIN, CCE24 = 72 3/4 ton V8 (plant is scratched out)

[desert-rat]

Originally Posted by jocko

You have a little bit bigger problem than mismatched VIN #s. Incorrect cab VIN rivets may make registering/titling it a pain. Where I lived in SoCal (also in the mojave), the DMV folks would walk to the truck to visually check the VIN. Pop rivets can mean CHP gets pulled in - I'd go to DMV and see what they say before I'd spend another dime on the truck. Was it an out of state purchase? I'd absolutely ask the seller about this also.

Keep us posted, I hope this works out ok.

And I'm with you on the CA commercial fee for an open-bed light duty truck. It really used to bug me that I had to pay the commercial tag fee on my 1/2 ton swb 66 with a bed I could eat off of (and had to get it weighed like it was a semi-truck or something...) - I wasn't hauling anything with that truck and it was obvious. I REALLY liked living in the desert there - but I do not miss CA.

You are not decoding the VIN correctly - and your decoder is for GMC, not Chev.
Your SPID VIN, CCE142S= 72 1/2 ton V8 from St Louis
Your metal VIN, CCE24 = 72 3/4 ton V8 (plant is scratched out)

How long ago did this happen in california? California did away with all that a long time ago...except for the commercial fees. I see the frame is GMC. That's fine as long as it's a C10 or a Gmc c15...same frames anyways. Buying parts for a C10 has more options.

[jocko]

I left CA about 10 yrs ago. But whether DMV is looking isn't exactly the point - having a pop-riveted VIN tag is the point. That's a potential problem in any state.

[special-K]

It seems to me whoever did this work didn't have a title to the 1/2t truck and used a 3/4t VIN-plate that he had a title for. I doubt it's a cab swap, probably all one truck with swapped VIN-plate which is exactly what DMV is looking for. It's what auto thieves do. Not saying the truck is stolen, there are other reasons, but DMV treats it all the same. You can either deal with remedying the rivet issue or go back to seller to renig on the deal citing the illegal situation they put you in. Probably easier to deal with the rivets. The extra registration fee is a minor issue here

[Palf70Step]

Originally Posted by desert-rat

Here's what was revealed when I ran the VIN. Screen shot of my cell.

1972 they changed the VIN to a longer one. his is guide for a 72 model year

[MikeB]

My 69 truck has been registered 3 times (TX, CO, TX, NJ) since I bought it in 1989. And I've never had anyone at the DMV physically look at it.

My favorite was a 55 Chevy that used a stamped number on the engine block as the VIN number on the title. And that number was not the same as the actual VIN number on the door jamb tag! That was apparently a Texas-only thing up through 1955. It's caused a lot of headaches for a lot of guys whose cars no longer had the original engines.

[RonWT]

Originally Posted by jocko

You have a little bit bigger problem than mismatched VIN #s. Incorrect cab VIN rivets may make registering/titling it a pain. Where I lived in SoCal (also in the mojave), the DMV folks would walk to the truck to visually check the VIN. Pop rivets can mean CHP gets pulled in - I'd go to DMV and see what they say before I'd spend another dime on the truck. Was it an out of state purchase? I'd absolutely ask the seller about this also.

Keep us posted, I hope this works out ok.

And I'm with you on the CA commercial fee for an open-bed light duty truck. It really used to bug me that I had to pay the commercial tag fee on my 1/2 ton swb 66 with a bed I could eat off of (and had to get it weighed like it was a semi-truck or something...) - I wasn't hauling anything with that truck and it was obvious. I REALLY liked living in the desert there - but I do not miss CA.

You are not decoding the VIN correctly - and your decoder is for GMC, not Chev.
Your SPID VIN, CCE142S= 72 1/2 ton V8 from St Louis
Your metal VIN, CCE24 = 72 3/4 ton V8 (plant is scratched out)

This post brings back up some bad memories for me, about 17 years ago here in Northen Ca, I bought from a dealership a 1970 cheyenne super c10 that was in very good shape. I put some things into it, put a good crate motor into it and absolutely loved the pickup. One day I got home to have a message on the answering machine from CHP requesting to inspect my pickup. I set up a time for the officer to come over and check it only to find out the pickup had been stolen from the state of Idaho for about 2 years, the guy that stole it, changed the vin plate on the cab, but the vin# on the frame had been puttied over. He ran a check on the vin# on the frame and that was the last time I saw that pickup. I sued the dealer and eventually won, but after attorney fees I had $1900 to show for it. Far from what I had in it. BE CAREFUL!

[special-K]

Originally Posted by MikeB

My 69 truck has been registered 3 times (TX, CO, TX, NJ) since I bought it in 1989. And I've never had anyone at the DMV physically look at it.

Here in MD and surrounding states, the safety inspection station verifies the VIN matches the title by comparing to the stamped VIN-plate. Most likely first thing. To register historic you just walk into DMV with paperwork. I've been pulled over by police more times I care to remember. Never have a had an officer look at my VIN on the truck. Just "License and registration, sir".