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07-29-2023, 10:34 AM | #1 |
Mr. Cheyenne
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Starter Hangs on flexplate.
I have been starter challenged since my brother rebuilt my engine, he discovered he put on the incorrect flexplate after he found my flexplate hiding behind the shop's workbench.
We corrected that some months back but when we did that, we also put on a rebuilt starter from a local shop. Things seem okay but every so often the starter doesn't engage right (think awful sound), so I figured I needed to revisit the shims. I have ton of shims of various sizes but I can't seem to get it dialed in. I went from no shims to a number of them. Photos taken by my snake camera, the starter pinion gear is hung on the flexplate after it didn't engage and start the engine. To get it off I have to push it back with a bit of force with a screwdriver. Might I have a starter with the incorrect starter pinion gear?
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07-29-2023, 11:30 AM | #2 |
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Re: Starter Hangs on flexplate.
Are you using full shims or half shims.
Do you have a starter brace? We assume you’re using the correct knurled shank starter bolts. Brace info here. https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=776005 |
07-29-2023, 11:48 AM | #3 |
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Re: Starter Hangs on flexplate.
Humm, I can't tell from the angle if the flex plate is bottoming on the starter gear. It sounds like you tried all the shim possibles so it is likely something else. I assume the plate is true. Is it possible the solenoid is failing and not moving the starter gear correctly? Were you able to look at this view while turning over the motor?
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07-29-2023, 11:56 AM | #4 |
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Re: Starter Hangs on flexplate.
I'm using full shims.
I've picked up a starter from O'Riley’s - didn’t want to but said the heck with it. I’ve not been about to start her up and look at the same time
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07-29-2023, 12:51 PM | #5 |
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Re: Starter Hangs on flexplate.
Pretty sure it’s the starter. The pinion just hangs there mostly engaged. New starter installed, no odd starting after ~20 bumps of the key, with no shims installed. Before every 5~10 starts it was a miss / horrid sound not engaging the flexplate.
Edit: Called a helper over and we decided on one 1/64 shim, then another 1/64, though we feel like the 2nd one didn't really change much. Have nearly 40 bumps of the key and no misses / horrid noises. Hope this is the end of replacing starters. Though I have gotten good removing, installing the starter and cycling shims in/out! This is even with the back brace for the starter in place (I totally see why people throw it away, such a PITA but I am not ever leaving it out).
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07-29-2023, 01:38 PM | #6 |
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Re: Starter Hangs on flexplate.
The Bendix gear teeth on the existing starter look a bit worn so buying another starter may have been a good move. You may need to go ahead and get a starter brace so the starter is rigid. Use a paper clip to gauge the clearance between the starter teeth and the flexplate teeth. You can use a jumper wire to deploy the Bendix gear for clearance checking. Do this before you connect the main positive wire from the battery to the solenoid so the starter dont turn when you deploy the Bendix... https://static.summitracing.com/glob...um-829100a.pdf
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07-29-2023, 01:48 PM | #7 |
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Re: Starter Hangs on flexplate.
@Ironangel - I edited my post likely when you were replying - I have had the back starter brace installed for some time now - that was one of the 1st things I did (before learning I had the wrong flexplate installed).
The one thing I haven't figured out is the tip of having the Bendix gear engaged with power but not having the starter turn over. I been using a screw driver to pull it out, which was damn hard with this new starter. I have been using a paperclip - which has blue tape at the end with "Chevy Starter Tool" written on it ;-)
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07-29-2023, 03:27 PM | #8 |
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Re: Starter Hangs on flexplate.
While your trying to figure this out, use manual tools ratchet extension socket. No air impact wrench.
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