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trinic · 01-29-2004, 11:26 AM

Would this be considered a high option 1971 Chevy truck?
Thx,

T.C.

ckhd · 01-29-2004, 11:31 AM

It would be considered a decently optioned pickup, if that was the original glovebox sticker. Something about it looks very fake to me. The font looks very off.

The edges of the descriptions that are cut off - like the air conditioning, storage box should be the maximum right of the letters, and with the below eyeline mirror line going 1 letter more than the tool and stowage box, which if it had one more letter to give would have the x on the end. It just throws up a ton of red flags for me.

Yellow Cheyenne · 01-29-2004, 11:36 AM

Not a high option, but decent none the less. It doesn't appear to be an original tag as the font for the lettering doesn't look right. It does look like someone may have been trying to recreate an original tag rather than creating a high option pickup. Some of the others that have been modified are a funny with the amount of errors they make.

Randy

ckhd · 01-29-2004, 11:38 AM

Oh, and the "Cheyenne super truc". That's a giveaway. It should be "Cheyenne Equipment". I don't think Chevy tried to ever type "truck" or "truc" on any of them.

trinic · 01-29-2004, 11:51 AM

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trinic · 01-29-2004, 11:58 AM

Could it be that different discriptions were used for the options from dealer to dealer or plant to plant? Truck looks to be unmolested to me, but I'll ask to make sure.

**CPNE** · 01-29-2004, 12:02 PM

Well, no mention is made of the tilt wheel option (it's not part of the Cheyenne" package by default) and no truck tilt wheel ever left the factory in any color other than black.

It's a nicely optioned truck however

trinic · 01-29-2004, 12:10 PM

cpne,
i thought the same about the tilt column not being mentioned. i was thinking it came standard with the cheyenne option. thx for the info so far.....

**CPNE** · 01-29-2004, 12:13 PM

This is not a "knit pick" or "rag" on this truck but is the seller passing this off as an unmolested original? If so, then:

The stowage box cover and hinges should match the lower body color (olive) and the fiberglass box itself should not be painted either.

Nice touches but not unmolested.

trinic · 01-29-2004, 12:21 PM

He's not selling as an unmolested, but I thought it was (i'm not an expert as you can see). that's the reason i posted here to get some of you talented guys to help out. what color would the fiberglass box be in this case? the hinges look olive to me...
thx for the help

cheyenne10 · 01-29-2004, 12:23 PM

It is always my first instint to pick apart restored trucks too. Inside of tool box should be black, gun rack holes, etc. but question was "is this a high option truck?". I would say is a nicely optioned cheyenne super "looking" truck, more options than most. Depending on price and body condition it may be a dandy.

But... unless soemone is claiming unrestored or factory original truck then to each his own. This is obviously a restored truck, done the way we may or may not build one and should have extra caution used in evaluating truck. I always look at a restored truck to see if it is done close to the way I would build one. I hate to buy someones elses work if it isn't my style and then try to redo it. Consiquently I have usually ended up with clean 1 owner or few owners trucks in unrestored condition because I am picky and don't want to pay restored prices for truck I wouldn't have build that way.

The first thing I ask and then check with glovebox sticker being redone is cab and frame vins. Again this can be done right but hidden issues may be lurking too.

IMHO!!

**tkeduk8r** · 01-29-2004, 01:37 PM

yeah the sticker is definetly bogus... but looks like a nice truck though.... the **** indicator is also of a l;ater van tilt column as well, not the righ font either... someone did spend some time on it though....
--Mike

Castiron9 · 01-29-2004, 02:50 PM

Here is a picture of my original LONGHORN sticker similiar to this truck..Looks a little different............

Leinie · 01-29-2004, 02:56 PM

Was the tool storage offered on either side of the truck? My dad's 72 had it on the drivers side. It's still in use in my home town and I see the old rustbucket a couple times a year. Last time by I remember the big gapping hole where the tool box used to be.

**Joesjunk** · 01-29-2004, 04:10 PM

I have never seen or heard of a factory tool box on the drivers side, always on the passenger side.

Leinie · 01-29-2004, 04:21 PM

It could just be my memory is not as good as I thought it was. I don't remember

**Joesjunk** · 01-29-2004, 04:50 PM

I hear ya on the memory thing

Short-Fuse 72' · 01-29-2004, 05:16 PM

Better put some gas in it soon.

*67Fleetsidedream* · 01-29-2004, 06:46 PM

The sticker looks to be offly clean to me. Mine is tarnished from over the years.

ftw80 · 01-30-2004, 12:58 AM

looks allot like Castiron9

you can also see the original build sheet which has everything.

http://www.noscade.com/longblack/pages/1.htm

That is a nice truck. The woodgrain looks new? mine does not list Brake Boo, but my truck has it?

How much are they asking?

1969 GMC · 01-30-2004, 02:47 AM

my truck is like that too...brake booster isnt listed but it has it. a p/o added it at some point. one of the few good things the p/o did

but maybe Cheyenne Supers came standard w/ power brakes...i am not sure.

Longhorn Man · 01-30-2004, 11:04 AM

Wasn't the cheyenne super a 72 only?
It is a sweet truck, but I agree that it is not what the seller may be passing it off as.

01-29-2004, 11:26 AM	#1
trinic Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wide awake Wylie (North Texas) Posts: 322	Is this a highly optioned truck??? Would this be considered a high option 1971 Chevy truck? Thx, T.C. Attached Images

01-29-2004, 11:31 AM	#2
ckhd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: St. Johns, Arizona Posts: 2,660	It would be considered a decently optioned pickup, if that was the original glovebox sticker. Something about it looks very fake to me. The font looks very off. The edges of the descriptions that are cut off - like the air conditioning, storage box should be the maximum right of the letters, and with the below eyeline mirror line going 1 letter more than the tool and stowage box, which if it had one more letter to give would have the x on the end. It just throws up a ton of red flags for me. __________________ my 2¢ - t.i.o.l.i. Bowen 1968 K20 fleet 1969 K10 swb fleet 1972 K10 Suburban 1972 C10 lwb step 1992 K1500 'burb 1995 K2500 'burb 1997 C1500 'burb 1999 K1500 2000 K1500 'burb Why do I own so many Suburbans? Last edited by ckhd; 01-29-2004 at 11:34 AM.

01-29-2004, 11:36 AM	#3
Yellow Cheyenne Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Eastern Kansas Posts: 488	Not a high option, but decent none the less. It doesn't appear to be an original tag as the font for the lettering doesn't look right. It does look like someone may have been trying to recreate an original tag rather than creating a high option pickup. Some of the others that have been modified are a funny with the amount of errors they make. Randy __________________ '72 Cheyenne. AC, PS, PB, Rear slider window, tilt. Light yellow (grapefruit yellow according to new sales literature from '72) '56 Chevy short step V-8 (My dad bought it new!!) '70 Olds 442 convertible '70 Olds Rallye 350

01-29-2004, 11:38 AM	#4
ckhd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: St. Johns, Arizona Posts: 2,660	Oh, and the "Cheyenne super truc". That's a giveaway. It should be "Cheyenne Equipment". I don't think Chevy tried to ever type "truck" or "truc" on any of them. __________________ my 2¢ - t.i.o.l.i. Bowen 1968 K20 fleet 1969 K10 swb fleet 1972 K10 Suburban 1972 C10 lwb step 1992 K1500 'burb 1995 K2500 'burb 1997 C1500 'burb 1999 K1500 2000 K1500 'burb Why do I own so many Suburbans?

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01-29-2004, 11:58 AM	#9
trinic Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wide awake Wylie (North Texas) Posts: 322	.. Could it be that different discriptions were used for the options from dealer to dealer or plant to plant? Truck looks to be unmolested to me, but I'll ask to make sure.

01-29-2004, 12:02 PM	#10
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,662	Well, no mention is made of the tilt wheel option (it's not part of the Cheyenne" package by default) and no truck tilt wheel ever left the factory in any color other than black. It's a nicely optioned truck however __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

01-29-2004, 12:10 PM	#11
trinic Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wide awake Wylie (North Texas) Posts: 322	thx cpne, i thought the same about the tilt column not being mentioned. i was thinking it came standard with the cheyenne option. thx for the info so far.....

01-29-2004, 12:13 PM	#12
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,662	This is not a "knit pick" or "rag" on this truck but is the seller passing this off as an unmolested original? If so, then: The stowage box cover and hinges should match the lower body color (olive) and the fiberglass box itself should not be painted either. Nice touches but not unmolested. __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

01-29-2004, 12:21 PM	#13
trinic Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wide awake Wylie (North Texas) Posts: 322	... He's not selling as an unmolested, but I thought it was (i'm not an expert as you can see). that's the reason i posted here to get some of you talented guys to help out. what color would the fiberglass box be in this case? the hinges look olive to me... thx for the help

01-29-2004, 12:23 PM	#14
cheyenne10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,512	picking apart It is always my first instint to pick apart restored trucks too. Inside of tool box should be black, gun rack holes, etc. but question was "is this a high option truck?". I would say is a nicely optioned cheyenne super "looking" truck, more options than most. Depending on price and body condition it may be a dandy. But... unless soemone is claiming unrestored or factory original truck then to each his own. This is obviously a restored truck, done the way we may or may not build one and should have extra caution used in evaluating truck. I always look at a restored truck to see if it is done close to the way I would build one. I hate to buy someones elses work if it isn't my style and then try to redo it. Consiquently I have usually ended up with clean 1 owner or few owners trucks in unrestored condition because I am picky and don't want to pay restored prices for truck I wouldn't have build that way. The first thing I ask and then check with glovebox sticker being redone is cab and frame vins. Again this can be done right but hidden issues may be lurking too. IMHO!! __________________ Bob

01-29-2004, 01:37 PM	#15
tkeduk8r Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Alexandria, MN Posts: 1,462	yeah the sticker is definetly bogus... but looks like a nice truck though.... the **** indicator is also of a l;ater van tilt column as well, not the righ font either... someone did spend some time on it though.... --Mike __________________ 63 C20 2WD, 230/SM420/4.11 73K 68 C30 dump truck, 327,SM425,4.56 66K original 68 C10 2WD SWB Stepper, 250/3-tree/3.73 66K.... Wifes 68 Buick Skylark Custom Conv., 350/TH400/2.56 In our family since '79 69 GMC 1500 SWB 2WD, 350/TH350/3.73 posi... 70 K10 SWB 4X4 4-sp,ps, pb, tilt, buckets, console, sliding back window (Need AC parts) WIP 72 Chevy K20 4x4 350/350/205/4.56 donor 72 Vette 350/M21/3.70 posi, triple black and super fast 84 Olds Cutlass Brougham 350/2004r/4.11 was Dad's



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01-29-2004, 02:50 PM	#16
Castiron9 72 LONGHORN OWNER Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Wash. Posts: 963	Here is a picture of my original LONGHORN sticker similiar to this truck..Looks a little different............ Attached Images __________________ 72-SUPER CHEYENNE/20 LONGHORN 70-C/30 DUALLY

01-29-2004, 02:56 PM	#17
Leinie Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 2,613	Was the tool storage offered on either side of the truck? My dad's 72 had it on the drivers side. It's still in use in my home town and I see the old rustbucket a couple times a year. Last time by I remember the big gapping hole where the tool box used to be.

01-29-2004, 04:10 PM	#18
Joesjunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 7,709	I have never seen or heard of a factory tool box on the drivers side, always on the passenger side. __________________ 72 3/4t Custom Deluxe 402/auto 66k Original paint 71 3/4t 4x4 Custom Deluxe 10k original miles Original paint 71 3/4t Cheyenne 402 70k original paint 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 91k original paint 72 Cheyenne/30 Dually 69 Camaro SS396 4-speed 13 GMC 2500HD Duramax I bought new 05 Jeep Wrangler "Willys Edition" 12k miles (I bought new) 85 3/4 ton 4x4 Scottsdale 33k miles original paint 86 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 454 restored 80 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 9,434 original miles!! original paint 95 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4 my dad bought new 95 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4, regular cab 454, 31k original miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 6.0L 67k miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 8.1L 28k miles 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4 regular cab Diesel 93k miles 67-72 Parts for sale

01-29-2004, 04:21 PM	#19
Leinie Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 2,613	It could just be my memory is not as good as I thought it was. I don't remember

01-29-2004, 04:50 PM	#20
Joesjunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 7,709	I hear ya on the memory thing __________________ 72 3/4t Custom Deluxe 402/auto 66k Original paint 71 3/4t 4x4 Custom Deluxe 10k original miles Original paint 71 3/4t Cheyenne 402 70k original paint 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 91k original paint 72 Cheyenne/30 Dually 69 Camaro SS396 4-speed 13 GMC 2500HD Duramax I bought new 05 Jeep Wrangler "Willys Edition" 12k miles (I bought new) 85 3/4 ton 4x4 Scottsdale 33k miles original paint 86 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 454 restored 80 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 9,434 original miles!! original paint 95 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4 my dad bought new 95 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4, regular cab 454, 31k original miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 6.0L 67k miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 8.1L 28k miles 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4 regular cab Diesel 93k miles 67-72 Parts for sale

01-29-2004, 05:16 PM	#21
Short-Fuse 72' Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 51	Better put some gas in it soon. __________________ Ya'll hear that? We's usin' codenames.

01-29-2004, 06:46 PM	#22
67Fleetsidedream Wiseass secured himself a BAN Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: MOON!!! Posts: 2,282	The sticker looks to be offly clean to me. Mine is tarnished from over the years.

01-30-2004, 12:58 AM	#23
ftw80 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: hawaii Posts: 268	here is a link to mine..... looks allot like Castiron9 you can also see the original build sheet which has everything. http://www.noscade.com/longblack/pages/1.htm That is a nice truck. The woodgrain looks new? mine does not list Brake Boo, but my truck has it? How much are they asking? __________________ Haleiwa, Hi. 1972 Custom Camper Cheyenne Super c/20 Longhorn 402bb 78k a/c, tach, tilt, tool stowage 48panhead 74 bronco 71 bronco http://noscade.com No Scade is pidgin English for "not scared" similar to "no fear". Last edited by ftw80; 01-30-2004 at 01:51 AM.

01-30-2004, 02:47 AM	#24
1969 GMC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Rubber City Posts: 5,498	my truck is like that too...brake booster isnt listed but it has it. a p/o added it at some point. one of the few good things the p/o did but maybe Cheyenne Supers came standard w/ power brakes...i am not sure. __________________ 1969 GMC K2500 1996 Honda Accord 2007 Kawasaki KLR 650

01-30-2004, 11:04 AM	#25
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Wasn't the cheyenne super a 72 only? It is a sweet truck, but I agree that it is not what the seller may be passing it off as.

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