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apstguy · 03-15-2004, 03:24 AM

Hmm..... What's this?

Bowtie Overdrives TH700, 2200 Stall converter, new tranny lines, and set-up kit.

She's waiting for it to be put in.... (doggie in the corner too)

After getting shot with Airshoft guns by my friends after a LAN party, I blocked them in w/ my truck. It was a little GEO so no contest. They backed up and tried to peel out to no avail but a squeek. So I flip a b*tch and gun it rosting the tire all the way down the road. I burned out!!!!!!! W/ a 305!!! WOW!!!! (I was really surprised)

I just went through SMOG check and passed! WWWhhhheeeewww! Chainged the oil and cleaned my air filter before going in. Not to mention put my stock oil breather tube on.

Russell · 03-15-2004, 03:42 AM

Man, I can't even get my 350 to burn out

lol

TIMSPEED · 03-15-2004, 03:45 AM

Nice Tyler, so that's going into my vette right? LOL
Can't wait to see the results when it's in..better chirp dem' tires LOUD!

apstguy · 03-15-2004, 07:23 PM

I hope so! I'll be ordering more parts Friday....

*mike reeh* · 03-15-2004, 10:00 PM

apstguy SWEET

mike

C-10volvo · 03-15-2004, 10:35 PM

awesome!! what stage is it? do you have any plans for an engine?

apstguy · 03-16-2004, 02:59 AM

Stage 2 - No plans for the engine yet, way too many other things to fix and repair like the damn passanger lock solenoid that only unlocks 1/2 the time but locks every time. I'm going to put on the rebuilt stock carb I got from our gigantimous swap meet we had a couple months ago. I really need to see if I can get better milage out of this thing. 9mpg w/ a 305 just doesn't cut it.

Devil'S Ride · 03-16-2004, 02:16 PM

damn....9mpg....you are almost in my mpg league......an I have 120more inches......congrats on the tranny....thats my next step....my TH350 was built for my old GM crate engine.....dropped in this 427 and it has since ate the tranny.....how much was that 700?

apstguy · 03-16-2004, 07:12 PM

It is $1020 but by the time it is dropped in the truck it will be more like $2000. I have to upgrade the torque converter, pan, lines, cooler, flexplate, starter..... etc.

gchemist · 03-16-2004, 07:31 PM

Wait till you do a burn out with the 700R4 and 305. My truck lights them really easy.

What type of tires are you running? I think I've seen them at Discount tire.

apstguy · 03-16-2004, 08:48 PM

Kuhmo Ecsta STX 275/60 15 - I LOVE them - especially compared to my old Firestone SS20's. They are a great tire for a cheap price. I got them for $80 a tire!

TIMSPEED · 03-16-2004, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by apstguy
It is $1020 but by the time it is dropped in the truck it will be more like $2000. I have to upgrade the torque converter, pan, lines, cooler, flexplate, starter..... etc.

Who's installing it Tyler? Give Tradeway Transmission's a call?

apstguy · 03-16-2004, 09:47 PM

Heck no! I wouldn't let anyone touch my truck when I can do it myself. That price above is installing everything myself. I don't want to know what it would be if I had a shop put it in.

TIMSPEED · 03-17-2004, 02:04 AM

OK, so what is the $800 charge for? Since your truck isn't lowered, the tranny swap won't be so bad. But that converter that came with that BTO tranny is just a normal stocker you can get at AutoZone. I recommend a Yank or TCI 2500 stall.

apstguy · 03-17-2004, 02:49 AM

I got a 2200 stall - definitly not stock. I have the mount, hoses, cooler, pan, flexplate, starter, wires, bolts, etc.

TIMSPEED · 03-17-2004, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by apstguy
I got a 2200 stall - definitly not stock. I have the mount, hoses, cooler, pan, flexplate, starter, wires, bolts, etc.

Hmm, that PDQ Brand though, I dunno about that...2200 is not high at all, but I imagine it will be ok. Hmm..
So, $1000 was for the Transmission ALONE, then the other $800 is for the Converter/Mount/Cooler/Flexplate/Starter/Wires
Converter = $250
Mount = $50
Cooler = $50
Flexplate = $25
Starter = $125
Wires = $25
Hmm....

gchemist · 03-17-2004, 03:54 AM

Hey, that converter is really high. Your cruise RPMs will be too low for it to lock up!! You need 3.73 gears or a smaller tire. The converter may lock up but it will be right on the edge. With a 3.08 a 1800-2000 stall is better suited. You may need to cruise up to 75 MPH to lock the converter then back of slightly to cruise speed so the converter stays locked.

BaggedC10 · 03-17-2004, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TIMSPEED

Hmm, that PDQ Brand though, I dunno about that...2200 is not high at all, but I imagine it will be ok. Hmm..
So, $1000 was for the Transmission ALONE, then the other $800 is for the Converter/Mount/Cooler/Flexplate/Starter/Wires
Converter = $250
Mount = $50
Cooler = $50
Flexplate = $25
Starter = $125
Wires = $25
Hmm....

Tim, not everyone buys cheap

from Autozone.....

Russell · 03-17-2004, 04:10 AM

STUPID QUESTION ALERT!!

What is a torque converter anyways? Some sort of device that locks up and applies direct engine power to the tranny or something?

LOHRTBT · 03-17-2004, 11:38 AM

2200 is a high stall G? hehehe Well I guess the 2800 - 3000 stall I will be putting in must baffle your mind lol

gchemist · 03-17-2004, 06:21 PM

My understanding is for a daily driver is to have the torque converter lock right below your cruise range. I drive a 1800 stall on my daily drive. I drive in 3rd in town mostly to lock the converter and save gas!! Every little bit helps. Now if I had deep gears and a stout SB or BB the 2800 stall would be killa.

apstguy · 03-17-2004, 07:28 PM

I either drive at 45 without overdrive or do 85 on the freeway. I don't think I'll go as slow as 75 on the freeway

Tim - You forgot locktite, hoses for the tranny lines, mounting brackets, bolts - not to mention the starter I'm getting is $200 - flexplate is $65, bolts are $5, Converter $250, shipping $100, cooler $55, hoses $75, and a couple other things like cleaner, new carb gasket, FLUID ($20) dipstick $65, deep pan $125. Get what I am saying about another $1000?

G - I DO NOT want this tranny locking in 3rd EVER. That would kill the sucker fast like the stock one I have. Bowtie Overdrive's only locks in 4th.

*mike reeh* · 03-17-2004, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by apstguy

G - I DO NOT want this tranny locking in 3rd EVER. That would kill the sucker fast like the stock one I have. Bowtie Overdrive's only locks in 4th.

why do you say that? The tranny will not lock in 3rd automatically but with a high stall converter, if you need to stay in 3rd you will be very glad that you have the manual lockup switch.

Why would you NOT want it to lock in 3rd? Going up grades or pulling trailers I lock mine in 3rd all the time

mike

chickenwing · 03-18-2004, 12:34 AM

The converter lock up harness I got from TCI lets you lock it up in 2nd 3rd and overdrive. They make no mention of that being hazardous to the tranny. The throttlevalve cable kit and install kit I bought from Bowtie Overdrives makes no mention of that either.

TIMSPEED · 03-18-2004, 07:06 AM

I have a 2600rpm Stall Yank Converter in my vette, and I HONESTLY can't even tell it's not stock. If I'm TRYING to watch when it locks up, it's right around 41mph.
Stock 350 with Headers
700R4
3.07 Gears, 26" Tires

03-15-2004, 03:24 AM	#1
apstguy LED King Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,088	Look what I got in... (and other random things) Hmm..... What's this? Bowtie Overdrives TH700, 2200 Stall converter, new tranny lines, and set-up kit. She's waiting for it to be put in.... (doggie in the corner too) After getting shot with Airshoft guns by my friends after a LAN party, I blocked them in w/ my truck. It was a little GEO so no contest. They backed up and tried to peel out to no avail but a squeek. So I flip a b*tch and gun it rosting the tire all the way down the road. I burned out!!!!!!! W/ a 305!!! WOW!!!! (I was really surprised) I just went through SMOG check and passed! WWWhhhheeeewww! Chainged the oil and cleaned my air filter before going in. Not to mention put my stock oil breather tube on. __________________ Tyler 1985 C10 305 w/ Bowtie OD TH700R4 3.42 LSD 202,000 miles 2006 Ford Focus ZX3 5-speed Stick 2016 Chevy Spark EV Gone: 2002.5 VW GTI 24v VR6 Gone: 2008 VW R32

03-15-2004, 03:42 AM	#2
Russell Professional Grade Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta Posts: 7,915	Man, I can't even get my 350 to burn out lol __________________ 1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap)

03-15-2004, 03:45 AM	#3
TIMSPEED Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,321	Nice Tyler, so that's going into my vette right? LOL Can't wait to see the results when it's in..better chirp dem' tires LOUD! __________________ I have a few cars... See Them Here

03-15-2004, 07:23 PM	#4
apstguy LED King Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,088	I hope so! I'll be ordering more parts Friday.... __________________ Tyler 1985 C10 305 w/ Bowtie OD TH700R4 3.42 LSD 202,000 miles 2006 Ford Focus ZX3 5-speed Stick 2016 Chevy Spark EV Gone: 2002.5 VW GTI 24v VR6 Gone: 2008 VW R32

03-15-2004, 10:35 PM	#6
C-10volvo Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lake Oswego, Oregon Posts: 1,028	awesome!! what stage is it? do you have any plans for an engine? __________________ Ken Morgan For fun: 1964 Volvo 122 For slow: 1984 Chevrolet C-10 For everything else: 1997 BMW M3

03-15-2004, 10:00 PM	#5
mike reeh 5 day ban, learn to behave. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: san diego, ca Posts: 684	apstguy SWEET mike

03-16-2004, 02:59 AM	#7
apstguy LED King Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,088	Stage 2 - No plans for the engine yet, way too many other things to fix and repair like the damn passanger lock solenoid that only unlocks 1/2 the time but locks every time. I'm going to put on the rebuilt stock carb I got from our gigantimous swap meet we had a couple months ago. I really need to see if I can get better milage out of this thing. 9mpg w/ a 305 just doesn't cut it. __________________ Tyler 1985 C10 305 w/ Bowtie OD TH700R4 3.42 LSD 202,000 miles 2006 Ford Focus ZX3 5-speed Stick 2016 Chevy Spark EV Gone: 2002.5 VW GTI 24v VR6 Gone: 2008 VW R32

03-16-2004, 02:16 PM	#8
Devil'S Ride Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Grants PassOregon Posts: 335	damn....9mpg....you are almost in my mpg league......an I have 120more inches......congrats on the tranny....thats my next step....my TH350 was built for my old GM crate engine.....dropped in this 427 and it has since ate the tranny.....how much was that 700? __________________ The Devil 1983 ONE TON 454/400/208 11" of lift on 44's

03-16-2004, 07:12 PM	#9
apstguy LED King Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,088	It is $1020 but by the time it is dropped in the truck it will be more like $2000. I have to upgrade the torque converter, pan, lines, cooler, flexplate, starter..... etc. __________________ Tyler 1985 C10 305 w/ Bowtie OD TH700R4 3.42 LSD 202,000 miles 2006 Ford Focus ZX3 5-speed Stick 2016 Chevy Spark EV Gone: 2002.5 VW GTI 24v VR6 Gone: 2008 VW R32

03-16-2004, 07:31 PM	#10
gchemist BAD BOW-Silverado XST Join Date: May 2000 Location: Senior Member from Austin, TX Posts: 6,431	Wait till you do a burn out with the 700R4 and 305. My truck lights them really easy. What type of tires are you running? I think I've seen them at Discount tire. __________________ Gerardo a.k.a. Mad Chemist Silverado XST videos

03-16-2004, 08:48 PM	#11
apstguy LED King Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,088	Kuhmo Ecsta STX 275/60 15 - I LOVE them - especially compared to my old Firestone SS20's. They are a great tire for a cheap price. I got them for $80 a tire! __________________ Tyler 1985 C10 305 w/ Bowtie OD TH700R4 3.42 LSD 202,000 miles 2006 Ford Focus ZX3 5-speed Stick 2016 Chevy Spark EV Gone: 2002.5 VW GTI 24v VR6 Gone: 2008 VW R32

03-16-2004, 09:47 PM	#13
apstguy LED King Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,088	Heck no! I wouldn't let anyone touch my truck when I can do it myself. That price above is installing everything myself. I don't want to know what it would be if I had a shop put it in. __________________ Tyler 1985 C10 305 w/ Bowtie OD TH700R4 3.42 LSD 202,000 miles 2006 Ford Focus ZX3 5-speed Stick 2016 Chevy Spark EV Gone: 2002.5 VW GTI 24v VR6 Gone: 2008 VW R32

03-17-2004, 02:04 AM	#14
TIMSPEED Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,321	OK, so what is the $800 charge for? Since your truck isn't lowered, the tranny swap won't be so bad. But that converter that came with that BTO tranny is just a normal stocker you can get at AutoZone. I recommend a Yank or TCI 2500 stall. __________________ I have a few cars... See Them Here

03-17-2004, 02:49 AM	#15
apstguy LED King Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,088	I got a 2200 stall - definitly not stock. I have the mount, hoses, cooler, pan, flexplate, starter, wires, bolts, etc. __________________ Tyler 1985 C10 305 w/ Bowtie OD TH700R4 3.42 LSD 202,000 miles 2006 Ford Focus ZX3 5-speed Stick 2016 Chevy Spark EV Gone: 2002.5 VW GTI 24v VR6 Gone: 2008 VW R32

03-17-2004, 03:54 AM	#17
gchemist BAD BOW-Silverado XST Join Date: May 2000 Location: Senior Member from Austin, TX Posts: 6,431	Hey, that converter is really high. Your cruise RPMs will be too low for it to lock up!! You need 3.73 gears or a smaller tire. The converter may lock up but it will be right on the edge. With a 3.08 a 1800-2000 stall is better suited. You may need to cruise up to 75 MPH to lock the converter then back of slightly to cruise speed so the converter stays locked. __________________ Gerardo a.k.a. Mad Chemist Silverado XST videos



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03-17-2004, 04:10 AM	#19
Russell Professional Grade Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta Posts: 7,915	STUPID QUESTION ALERT!! What is a torque converter anyways? Some sort of device that locks up and applies direct engine power to the tranny or something? __________________ 1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap)

03-17-2004, 11:38 AM	#20
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	2200 is a high stall G? hehehe Well I guess the 2800 - 3000 stall I will be putting in must baffle your mind lol __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

03-17-2004, 06:21 PM	#21
gchemist BAD BOW-Silverado XST Join Date: May 2000 Location: Senior Member from Austin, TX Posts: 6,431	My understanding is for a daily driver is to have the torque converter lock right below your cruise range. I drive a 1800 stall on my daily drive. I drive in 3rd in town mostly to lock the converter and save gas!! Every little bit helps. Now if I had deep gears and a stout SB or BB the 2800 stall would be killa. __________________ Gerardo a.k.a. Mad Chemist Silverado XST videos

03-17-2004, 07:28 PM	#22
apstguy LED King Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,088	I either drive at 45 without overdrive or do 85 on the freeway. I don't think I'll go as slow as 75 on the freeway Tim - You forgot locktite, hoses for the tranny lines, mounting brackets, bolts - not to mention the starter I'm getting is $200 - flexplate is $65, bolts are $5, Converter $250, shipping $100, cooler $55, hoses $75, and a couple other things like cleaner, new carb gasket, FLUID ($20) dipstick $65, deep pan $125. Get what I am saying about another $1000? G - I DO NOT want this tranny locking in 3rd EVER. That would kill the sucker fast like the stock one I have. Bowtie Overdrive's only locks in 4th. __________________ Tyler 1985 C10 305 w/ Bowtie OD TH700R4 3.42 LSD 202,000 miles 2006 Ford Focus ZX3 5-speed Stick 2016 Chevy Spark EV Gone: 2002.5 VW GTI 24v VR6 Gone: 2008 VW R32

03-18-2004, 12:34 AM	#24
chickenwing Lovin' Life in Miss.! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, Mississippi Posts: 1,937	The converter lock up harness I got from TCI lets you lock it up in 2nd 3rd and overdrive. They make no mention of that being hazardous to the tranny. The throttlevalve cable kit and install kit I bought from Bowtie Overdrives makes no mention of that either. __________________ The truck... you hear that? No really, you did hear that?!!!

03-18-2004, 07:06 AM	#25
TIMSPEED Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,321	I have a 2600rpm Stall Yank Converter in my vette, and I HONESTLY can't even tell it's not stock. If I'm TRYING to watch when it locks up, it's right around 41mph. Stock 350 with Headers 700R4 3.07 Gears, 26" Tires __________________ I have a few cars... See Them Here

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