How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10

[gringoloco]

Squirted some color on a few small parts today--really liking this VHT epoxy satin black. It has the perfect sheen and lays out really nicely. The control arms and rear disc brackets will head to the powder coater next week...

[XxCHEVYMANxX]

Nice parts ! and painted pieces are lookin good too. Vht is a good product, I use it and duplicolor as well. keep up the good work !

[mcbassin]

More nice parts. The paint looks good.
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[widewhite70]

Looking good! I like to see the Porterbuilt parts! My next build will have some for sure

[gringoloco]

Originally Posted by XxCHEVYMANxX

Nice parts ! and painted pieces are lookin good too. Vht is a good product, I use it and duplicolor as well. keep up the good work !

Thanks! I've had good luck with their wrinkle finish, too.

Originally Posted by mcbassin

More nice parts. The paint looks good.
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Thanks- chipping away at it...

Originally Posted by widewhite70

Looking good! I like to see the Porterbuilt parts! My next build will have some for sure

Thanks! I don't think yours is lacking in the handling dept. They are nice looking pieces- hopefully work as good as they look
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[gringoloco]

Pulled the 'bags and installed the ECE 6" drop rear coils. Man, this thing is L-O-W...

The coils slipped right in like they belonged there and in conjunction with my 1.5" blocks give me 7.5" of rear drop, which is about 1.5 lower than where I had the airbags set before for the 'just right' rake. Not sure what the plan of attack is at this point, as I kinda like the lowered look, but would have to re-work shock mounts, bumpstops, and maybe exhaust to get it right--not to mention the work involved in getting the front down another inch to match

The ride is different--definitely feel more of the road than with 'bags, but not necessarily in a bad way, except when I hit a larger bump and it bangs the bumpstops. If it stays at this height, I'll fix that so it won't be a factor...

[gringoloco]

Here's before and after measurements of the rear wheel arch, as well a side view showing just how re-donk-u-lous it looks with the a$$ dragging the ground. I am NOT a fan of the 'cali-lean'. Also note how off-center the front wheels are--the PB arms should remedy most of this. I think I will wait until after I complete the trailing arm 'flip' before I plan any other drastic changes out back, as I'm pretty sure that mod will raise the rear an inch or so...

[Lolyin58]

Truck looks really good. Should be fun to drive!
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[Bennett68C10]

I love the way the rear looks, I would leave it like that and get the front down a little lower. What spring are you running in the front, maybe try a 3" lowering spring if your able too
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[Xeen]

You could just remove the 1.5" rear lowering blocks and see how you like it.

[Pick]

Originally Posted by Xeen

You could just remove the 1.5" rear lowering blocks and see how you like it.

Or just machine the blocks to the height you need to fine tune the rear drop and achieve the "right" rake you're looking for.

[XxCHEVYMANxX]

Originally Posted by Bennett--G4L

I love the way the rear looks, I would leave it like that and get the front down a little lower. What spring are you running in the front, maybe try a 3" lowering spring if your able too
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I agree, bring the front down and your there.

[darkhorse970]

I like it! With a little fine tuning I have no doubt that you will get it where you want it.

BTW, I'm adding the sway bar to my '63 this week so I will give you some "feedback" on the handling improvements.

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by Xeen

You could just remove the 1.5" rear lowering blocks and see how you like it.

He would still have to re-work the shock mounts as the blocks help w/shock travel. It will be interesting to see where the height winds up after the relocating of the front T/A pivot.

[gringoloco]

Originally Posted by Lolyin58

Truck looks really good. Should be fun to drive!
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Thanks- I sure hope so after all of this

Originally Posted by Bennett--G4L

I love the way the rear looks, I would leave it like that and get the front down a little lower. What spring are you running in the front, maybe try a 3" lowering spring if your able too
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Front is currently a 1" drop Belltech trimmed to about 2" drop. If I do anything, I'd probably section the crossmember to bring it down and keep my ground clearance. This was supposed to be a simple project, though

Originally Posted by Xeen

You could just remove the 1.5" rear lowering blocks and see how you like it.

Thought about that, but will probably wait 'til after the t-arm 'flip'

Originally Posted by Pick

Or just machine the blocks to the height you need to fine tune the rear drop and achieve the "right" rake you're looking for.

Likely will end up doing this following the flip

Originally Posted by XxCHEVYMANxX

I agree, bring the front down and your there.

Part of me agrees, but the other part doesn't wanna deal with all of the custom fab required to get there...

Originally Posted by darkhorse970

I like it! With a little fine tuning I have no doubt that you will get it where you want it.

BTW, I'm adding the sway bar to my '63 this week so I will give you some "feedback" on the handling improvements.

Cool, let me know what you think--I was amazed at the difference

Originally Posted by SCOTI

He would still have to re-work the shock mounts as the blocks help w/shock travel. It will be interesting to see where the height winds up after the relocating of the front T/A pivot.

I agree- trying to minimize the amount of fab while still being super low is an exercise in futility. There's give/take while finding the balance. TA mount flip coming soon--I'll do it as a direct 1:1 comparison with no other changes, just for scientific purposes
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[Zoomin]

What's odd is that it looks like it's sitting level if you look at the top of the bed. Are your rims different diameters (too lazy to search)?

[gringoloco]

Originally Posted by Zoomin

What's odd is that it looks like it's sitting level if you look at the top of the bed. Are your rims different diameters (too lazy to search)?

20" wheels all around, but with a slight tire rake; 28" front/29" rear...

[gringoloco]

Powder! Dropped off at lunch, picked up after work- how's that for service?!

[darkhorse970]

That's outstanding service! Looks like very high quality coating too.
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[chapster]

Hey Gringoloco,

Nice build,

Quick question,
I thought I had this figured out the last time I talked to Nate in regards to the 1" forward arms. After reading your thread is it only the requirement of lower control arms to benefit the 1" forward? What is the difference on the uppers they sent you vs the uppers for a standard dropmember.

Thanks,
Chapster

[gringoloco]

Originally Posted by darkhorse970

That's outstanding service! Looks like very high quality coating too.
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They generally do great work- I will have to chase some threads and probably clean up the ball joint pockets, which they're normally really good about, but I'm not complaining- I have taken a hammer to their powder before, and it just conforms to the dents- no flaking/chipping at all...

Originally Posted by chapster

Hey Gringoloco,

Nice build,

Quick question,
I thought I had this figured out the last time I talked to Nate in regards to the 1" forward arms. After reading your thread is it only the requirement of lower control arms to benefit the 1" forward? What is the difference on the uppers they sent you vs the uppers for a standard dropmember.

Thanks,
Chapster

I will be running lowers only, which will give more caster and less 'centering'. The upper arms were sent to me by accident, and are being returned

My understanding is that there are forward uppers as well as standard uppers depending on what you're looking for. I was looking for cheap
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[Bennett68C10]

Powdercoat looks awesome, should have done that to mine but I cheaped out and painted them.
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[gringoloco]

Originally Posted by Bennett--G4L

Powdercoat looks awesome, should have done that to mine but I cheaped out and painted them.
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I thought about putting most of the parts in powder, but to save a few bucks, I only did the larger ones that required the durability.




Here's a dirty-hack p-shop of what I would be happy with for ride height up front to match the current rear. I think I'd be pretty close to the stock inners at this height, but I love the look...

[chapster]

I will be running lowers only, which will give more caster and less 'centering'. The upper arms were sent to me by accident, and are being returned

My understanding is that there are forward uppers as well as standard uppers depending on what you're looking for. I was looking for cheap
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Thanks for the clarification. That is what I understood from Nate but thought maybe I was missing something.

Cheers

[aggie91]

Who did the powder coating? If you don't mind what did they. Charge for the control arms and brackets?
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