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Old 04-26-2011, 12:20 AM   #76
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"take your 305 add a set of world products sr torquer 305 heads, comp 268h cam small stall converter ededbrock performer rpm intake holly 650 double pumper and a 125 shot of squeeze and you got a 12-13 second runner"
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Place your bets. More like 15-17 seconds. What did you base this theory on? Around here your cheapest bet would be to buy a used race motor.

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Old 04-26-2011, 12:46 AM   #77
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actual engine built and put in a 67 longbed chevy. it dynoed 345 hp and 365 tq add your 125 wet shot and your 450-495 (it dynoed 3 times with 3 completely different nos results) at the flexplate.yea 15-17 second times if you forget 3rd gear
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:49 AM   #78
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I like how i can buy parts for te 305, and LATER add them to the built sbc, either 350-400
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:34 AM   #79
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1961 chevy longbed 3:73 posi rear 355 small block chevy camel hump heads 1:94 intake cut 1:60 intakes hooker supercomp headers 2.5 pipes to flowmasters 1800 stall converter to a shift kitted th350 transmission comp cams 270h cam edelbrock victor jr intake comp cams valve springs flat top pistons with 9.75 compression ratio best time 13.3 smoking tires thru 1st gear it was my high school truck i miss playing like that o yea a honda ...............
http://www.wallaceracing.com/et-hp-mph.php

Sorry, But I call BS on this... using the wallace calculator you need to have about 500 HP at the Crank... especially with the tires spinning...
I don't mean to be rude... but I just don't buy it... been around Drag racing and engines too long....

My truck had basically the same setup when I got it.. 355 with the Comp 270H Cam, Edelbrock Performer Aluminum Heads, edelbrock RPM intake, Edelbrock Carb, 2400 RPM Converter and 3.73 gears, and it ran 15.1 at about 92 MPH, and it is a shortbed (Lighter) and it hooked up.

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Your HP is 378.05 computed from your vehicle weight of 4500 pounds and ET of 13.3 seconds
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Old 04-26-2011, 02:06 PM   #80
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If the truck weighs 4600lbs, it says it would take roughly 332hp to the wheels to get 13.98

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Old 04-26-2011, 02:23 PM   #81
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If the truck weighs 4600lbs, it says it would take roughly 332hp to the wheels to get 13.98
Yep!
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:47 PM   #82
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Sorry, But I call BS on this... using the wallace calculator you need to have about 500 HP at the Crank... especially with the tires spinning...
I don't mean to be rude... but I just don't buy it... been around Drag racing and engines too long....

My truck had basically the same setup when I got it.. 355 with the Comp 270H Cam, Edelbrock Performer Aluminum Heads, edelbrock RPM intake, Edelbrock Carb, 2400 RPM Converter and 3.73 gears, and it ran 15.1 at about 92 MPH, and it is a shortbed (Lighter) and it hooked up.

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Your HP is 378.05 computed from your vehicle weight of 4500 pounds and ET of 13.3 seconds
Ok I guess if you use higher dollar parts and its not possible it cant be possible with low dollar parts..... its cool with me, Ive built a few motors too and i know what works and what doesn't. I'm just offering my experience for a new trucker if you don't like it don't read it. If anyone is from sacramento about 20 years ago the primer grey chevy with the 5 spoke etII wheels with the centers painted blue...... at sac raceway every wednesday and friday night for 2 years. if you were there you couldn't forget it. yea i did a disk brake swap way back then with the 71 rear to match
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:51 PM   #83
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400sbc eldin /.503/510 lift. edle intake. flat top pistons. stock heads. rollor rockers th350with shift kit. stock stall from 305 motor.10bolt. 3:42 airborne race posi. 235/75/15 tires on that run. fist time out to the track. and best time that night with no tuning was a 13.90
YouTube - 84 c10 pbir
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This was at Moroso racetrack ( palm beach raceway)? I think I saw that truck run....
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:53 PM   #84
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I like how i can buy parts for te 305, and LATER add them to the built sbc, either 350-400
You can but the heads are small chamber(58cc) and the runners are to small for 6500 rpm on a bigger motor. Everything else you buy can be used on a 350-400 you would most likely want a bigger cam the 268h is as big as you would want to go on that 305.
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:56 PM   #85
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This was at Moroso racetrack ( palm beach raceway)? I think I saw that truck run....
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i was in california mostly i did some runs in colorado on a road trip i was on and then the military shipped me and my truck to hawaii so she ran there too.
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Old 04-26-2011, 04:23 PM   #86
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Ok I guess if you use higher dollar parts and its not possible it cant be possible with low dollar parts.....
Low Dollar or MEGA Dollar.... not possible with those parts you specified, unless that truck weighed 3000 Lbs
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Old 04-26-2011, 04:40 PM   #87
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i got an 85 lwb with a terrible th350 3:42 locker 355, dart iron eagle heads, comp thumpr 479 469 cam ,flat top pistons, victor junior intake, whole motor gasket matched and it walks my brothers acura rsx. my neighbor has an acura nsx and after he saw my truck pull he refuses to race me.
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:23 PM   #88
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Yes sir that is pbir. The new moroso lol I ran a few times that night. I forget the date. It was a few months ago
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:58 PM   #89
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Yes sir that is pbir. The new moroso lol I ran a few times that night. I forget the date. It was a few months ago
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Ok, I figured it was the same truck. All my buddies make fun of my slow daily 305 and when we saw this a light bulb went off in everyone's head. They laugh now but I'm searching for a t78 to put on this 5.3 that's laying in my garage. I put a Z06 cam and a ls1 intake with everything else stock. That'll be my setup till I need more speed
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Sorry, But I call BS on this... using the wallace calculator you need to have about 500 HP at the Crank... especially with the tires spinning...
I don't mean to be rude... but I just don't buy it... been around Drag racing and engines too long....

My truck had basically the same setup when I got it.. 355 with the Comp 270H Cam, Edelbrock Performer Aluminum Heads, edelbrock RPM intake, Edelbrock Carb, 2400 RPM Converter and 3.73 gears, and it ran 15.1 at about 92 MPH, and it is a shortbed (Lighter) and it hooked up.

the calculator is displayed as Rear wheel Horsepower as below.


Your HP is 378.05 computed from your vehicle weight of 4500 pounds and ET of 13.3 seconds

Oh good god, look at THIS bench racer.
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Oh good god, look at THIS bench racer.
Uh huh!!! Probably more racing under my belt than you ever will have

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Old 04-26-2011, 08:27 PM   #92
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Ok, I figured it was the same truck. All my buddies make fun of my slow daily 305 and when we saw this a light bulb went off in everyone's head. They laugh now but I'm searching for a t78 to put on this 5.3 that's laying in my garage. I put a Z06 cam and a ls1 intake with everything else stock. That'll be my setup till I need more speed
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haha glad you liked it. shoulda come and talked to me. woulda shown u the truck
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haha glad you liked it. shoulda come and talked to me. woulda shown u the truck
I'm going in a few weeks maybe I'll catch up to you out there. My buddy does a lot of the guys transmissions that come out there from Miami. So he's always there
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Old 04-28-2011, 12:15 AM   #94
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Here's a link to Mark Jones' site.
www.vortecproperformance.com/engine_combinations.html
Now he builds big blocks that the members at Team Chevelle rave about. I haven't used his products, don't know him but his cheapest motor at $4995 pan to carb would get you in the low 13's easily. Who doesn't like a big block?

"467 517 HP 564 TQ
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Old 04-28-2011, 06:32 PM   #95
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I have a 85 shortbed that weighs right at 4k with me in it. It has a crate 383 stroker, 650 Holley vacuum secondary's, forged internals. 10.0:1 compression that made 462 horse and 465 ft lbs at the crank.. paid right around 6k from URE engines for the "turnkey" which i still had to buy a starter and a water pump because the one i got was for a serpentine and not a v-belt set up(spun backwards).. The trans is a th400 built for nitrous, manual valve body, and 3600 nitrous stall that flashes at 3200 on a foot brake ( i don't run nitrous). That was with the truck when i bought the roller.. the rearend is just a truck 10 bolt, eaton posi and 4.10 gears. Traction bars and m/t e/t street tires. i bought the truck completely done as a roller with everything but an engine, for 2300 which is a complete steal!!! I think as is right now i have right at about 10k into it. My first street/strip build.

I ran a 13.26 at 99 with a 1.8 60' The tires were to big as i was running at 30x12.50 .. havent had a chance to get to a track since i pun 28x10.50s on it, but im sure they will get me at a higher trap speed and i get lower my ET. Also need a little carb tune.

If i could do it all over again, i would have bought an ls1, did heads and cam intake and exhaust, and a small shot of nitrous and probably had the same results, and still got 15 or better mpgs and not a whopping 5 .. But i'm not sure if this helps any decision making. but just make sure you completely explore all of your options before you start spending money.
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SO ANYWAY... Build it and run it and then tell us how you did. I knew a guy that had a blown 454 in a vega TUBBED and went 12's. And there are stock class 305 Firebirds running 10's. Go figure. Also there is a second or so difference between California and Iowa due to altitude. I drag raced for ever. 3 camaros, a chevelle, brothers chevelle, nephews dual turbo 80 malibu.

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