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Old 04-08-2013, 07:11 PM   #1
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late dually wheels to 83 1 tonner ?

i have a 83 chevy car hauler -1 ton -c-30-i would like to put some later 90s -wheels w/fancy rings and caps -whats needed ?i was told to just buy some adapter nuts ? where ? OR will the 2012 year -17" wheels fit ? also what nuts and so forth ?anybody done either ? thanks mike
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:13 PM   #2
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Re: late dually wheels to 83 1 tonner ?

2011-up 3/4-ton and 1-tons have a different bolt pattern.
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:16 PM   #3
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Re: late dually wheels to 83 1 tonner ?

thanks for the info-i looked at a 2012 on dealers lot -they did look like a wierd bolt pattern !guess im back to the 90 abd newer styles !
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Re: late dually wheels to 83 1 tonner ?

2010 on back, should be the same bolt pattern.
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Re: late dually wheels to 83 1 tonner ?

Regarding lug nuts, look for 9/16" conversion lug nuts. They will look like the newer lug nuts with the external threads but have a 9/16" center instead of M14. The external threads are used by the center cap retainers.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:55 AM   #6
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Re: late dually wheels to 83 1 tonner ?

Be aware of some other wheel info, the center hub bore diameter is larger on new style wheels causing wheels to run off center. You can fix it by using a "Hub Ring" or just checking the wheels before you purchase them.

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76-2000 Hub Bore is 4.56 / wheels are 8 X 6.0
01-2007 Hub Bore is 4.60 / wheels are 8 X 6.5

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Old 04-09-2013, 11:21 AM   #7
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Re: late dually wheels to 83 1 tonner ?

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2011-up 3/4-ton and 1-tons have a different bolt pattern.
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2010 on back, should be the same bolt pattern.
True, but having a machine shop drill out the correct pattern is not a big deal at all, but keep in mind the hub bore diameter.
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Be aware of some other wheel info, the center hub bore diameter is larger on new style wheels causing wheels to run off center. You can fix it by using a "Hub Ring" or just checking the wheels before you purchase them.

Here is some helpful info...

76-2000 Hub Bore is 4.56 / wheels are 8 X 6.5
01-2007 Hub Bore is 4.60 / wheels are 8 X 6.5

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This, in 01 they went to the larger 4.60" hub bore. This translates into just over 1/32" diameter difference, or about 1mm. Meaning the wheel is free to move about 1/64" or 1/2mm in any direction before torquing down. You will not find a hub ring that small, and that small of a difference will not get the wheel far enough off center to cause much of a vibration. Just put the wheel on, and torque it down and it will be fine.

It WILL be an issue if he used 8x6.5" Ford wheels with a 4.88" bore, older Dodge with a 4.75" bore, or newer Dodge with a 4.78" bore, although with those sizes, a hub ring would be feasible to machine.

If you just want the "fancy rings and caps" just put them on your wheels. As 83GMC mentioned; just get the correct conversion dual threaded lug nuts, IIRC McGard produces them, in 9/16 with the external threads. Then just thread on the newer caps, and pop on the rings to your existing wheels.
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Re: late dually wheels to 83 1 tonner ?

THANKS EVERYBODY !! i knew somebody would have the answer !! now to find some wheels -seems like -there hard to find ?? thanks mike
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