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Old 06-06-2015, 06:45 PM   #1
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Re: Danforth Cross Member Install

We have it in and its a whole lot better steering than it was. It is about an 1/8" from the stops. We did have to use Tbrid inner tie rods EV117 and cut them about 3/4' on each end. The rod end were 7" long from a 93 corvette re-tapped to fit the tie rods. On a very tight turn it does scrub a bit but its only when its up against the stop. we do need to raise it 1.5".
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Old 06-08-2015, 10:03 AM   #2
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We have it in and its a whole lot better steering than it was. It is about an 1/8" from the stops. We did have to use Tbrid inner tie rods EV117 and cut them about 3/4' on each end. The rod end were 7" long from a 93 corvette re-tapped to fit the tie rods. On a very tight turn it does scrub a bit but its only when its up against the stop. we do need to raise it 1.5".
Thanks a ton for the info. I plan on pulling the rack and pinion from the Thunderbird when I pull the IRS rear end.

The plan is coming together........
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Re: Danforth Cross Member Install

OK, so I found a S-10 donor at a local scrap yard. Hope to head out there in the near future.

Any special tools required to remove the A arms and associated stuff?
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We have it in and its a whole lot better steering than it was. It is about an 1/8" from the stops. We did have to use Tbrid inner tie rods EV117 and cut them about 3/4' on each end. The rod end were 7" long from a 93 corvette re-tapped to fit the tie rods. On a very tight turn it does scrub a bit but its only when its up against the stop. we do need to raise it 1.5".
I am still tinkering on my install and have taken a couple short trips around the neighborhood.

One thing I noticed is the steering radius sucks. I see you replaced the inner tie rod ends.

What was the reason for that?

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I am still tinkering on my install and have taken a couple short trips around the neighborhood.

One thing I noticed is the steering radius sucks. I see you replaced the inner tie rod ends.

What was the reason for that?

Thanks!!
The inner tie rods that came with the rack were to long. I was seriously concerned when I first drove it around the lot here, our turn radius sucked, it pushed on corners, it jerked on a tight corners like a 4X4 until we got the toe right and aligned and its now as good or better than the stock axle. The customer has about 3000 miles on it with no steering complaints after we went to the 3 turn rack.
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The inner tie rods that came with the rack were to long. I was seriously concerned when I first drove it around the lot here, our turn radius sucked, it pushed on corners, it jerked on a tight corners like a 4X4 until we got the toe right and aligned and its now as good or better than the stock axle. The customer has about 3000 miles on it with no steering complaints after we went to the 3 turn rack.
What caster number did you end up with?
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What caster number did you end up with?
It lined up at

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-0.1 degree camber <--- a little out of spec but not much
0.8 degree caster
.11 degree toe

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0.0 camber
1.4 caster
.11 toe

lined up as a 2003 S10 4x2
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One thing I noticed is the steering radius sucks.
Hey Coach it's been a few months of driving with the new cross member.

What is your current opinion?

What would you do different?

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Hey Coach it's been a few months of driving with the new cross member.

What is your current opinion?

What would you do different?

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To be honest I have not given it a fair shake. I still have not had it aligned, other than some quick string lines at my shop.

It goes down the road straight, with no bump steer. Around town over 15 mph it seems great. It is the slow parking lot stuff that it bucks, pushes and the radius sucks.

I have about 500 miles on it at this point.



If I was to do it over I would not go this route. When issues arise Scott is pretty much worthless as far as support. Looking back I wish I would have gone with an Industrial Chassis Crossmember or a full Fatman set up. Live and learn I guess.
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Thanks for the update.

I am still deciding what to do. I have the SD unit setting on the shop floor, but have not jumped on it yet.

I have thought about putting it up for sale and moving on to ether a MKII or just clipping the truck with a G-body clip.

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To be honest I have not given it a fair shake. I still have not had it aligned, other than some quick string lines at my shop.

It goes down the road straight, with no bump steer. Around town over 15 mph it seems great. It is the slow parking lot stuff that it bucks, pushes and the radius sucks.

I have about 500 miles on it at this point.



If I was to do it over I would not go this route. When issues arise Scott is pretty much worthless as far as support. Looking back I wish I would have gone with an Industrial Chassis Crossmember or a full Fatman set up. Live and learn I guess.
I had those very same issues on the one we did and thought the same thing but when it was lined up correctly it was like night and day. No more pushing around tight corners and the radius was good.
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I had those very same issues on the one we did and thought the same thing but when it was lined up correctly it was like night and day. No more pushing around tight corners and the radius was good.
Hi guys! I’m a newbie here, my name is Kit. I have been following both of your builds! I am installing a 3 turn gear in a Danforth Crossmember per the information I’ve gathered with you both. Any help or advice I could get I would greatly appreciate!
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