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Old 08-18-2023, 03:46 PM   #1
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Sorry...another HEI plug wire thread

I have a stock 400 BB, no ram horn manifold.

I'd read here, plug wires for a 75 vette will fit. Bought a set at Advance. The clips for both ends did not click on as they should. They were real loose. No one there could help further.

Another search here, I bought a set of AC/Delco 9088S wires. The plug end is a 90 vs. a straight boot. They are way too close to the exhaust manifold. So close, I can not get the #4 wire on the plug. They are going back to Amazon.

Another 2 hours of searching...
... maybe AC/Delco 9508D will fit.
... maybe Napa bel700103 will fit. This one has a coil wire which I still have.

I know some will say...buy bulk, make your own. I tried that years ago. In my case, was a waste of $'s. Never could get the connections correct.

Thanks much...Don.
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Old 08-18-2023, 04:19 PM   #2
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Re: Sorry...another HEI plug wire thread

The 75 vet wires are for a small block with HEI. The end will not fit on a points distributer which you have found out. Some of the wires are so short they probably will not fit a BB. After many frustrating experiences I switched to making my own. I buy bulk MSD wire, boots, and ends, and most importantly a quality set of real spark plug wire crimpers. After 2 or 3 trials they can be made up in about 3 minutes to whatever length is right for you. Good luck, Lee
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Old 08-18-2023, 05:00 PM   #3
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Re: Sorry...another HEI plug wire thread

I made my own too and it was very satisfying to get the right lengths just how I wanted them..
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Old 08-18-2023, 07:17 PM   #4
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Re: Sorry...another HEI plug wire thread

What type exhaust manifolds and what type distributor?
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Old 08-19-2023, 07:44 AM   #5
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What type exhaust manifolds and what type distributor?
They look like typical 1970 GMC Sierra exhaust manifold.

I have a Skip White HEI dizzy.

Sorry for the lack of info.
HTH...Don.
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Old 08-19-2023, 09:08 AM   #6
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Does the distributor cap have male or female terminals?

Do your exhaust manifolds look like these?
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Old 08-19-2023, 02:20 PM   #7
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Does the distributor cap have male or female terminals?

Do your exhaust manifolds look like these?
Cap has male terminals.

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Thanks for your time...much appreciated...Don.
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Old 08-19-2023, 10:20 PM   #8
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Re: Sorry...another HEI plug wire thread

1975 Chevy truck with 454 will work, OEM style have straight boots. I got mine from NAPA, don’t remember the part number. Only put 500 miles on them before I put headers on the truck and went with 135 degree boots. I might still have them. If you are interested let me know and I will look for them.
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Old 08-20-2023, 12:08 AM   #9
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1975 Chevy truck with 454 will work, OEM style have straight boots. I got mine from NAPA, don’t remember the part number. Only put 500 miles on them before I put headers on the truck and went with 135 degree boots. I might still have them. If you are interested let me know and I will look for them.

This is what I used on my 68 396 when I went to an HEI distributor. Stock manifolds and it worked well. They have an HEI end for the distributor and straight caps for the plug end.

I also tried the Corvette wires first and realized that was a small block solution.
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Old 08-20-2023, 04:22 AM   #10
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OK, I'm a dumbass. You said 400 BB, and for whatever reason I was thinking 400 small block. Listen to the two comments above.
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Old 08-20-2023, 10:50 AM   #11
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OK, I'm a dumbass. You said 400 BB, and for whatever reason I was thinking 400 small block. Listen to the two comments above.
Let's be honest, if people have a 400, they should say 400. If folks have a 402, they should say 402.

I used a set from a 1976 454 for a chevy C20. But maybe they aren't the correct lengths for folks who want a very clean and organized look.
The brand is a popular very high quality Japanese brand--popular with Japanese car folks for many many years--NGK.

NGK 51373
~$30

They're bright blue which might bother some folks, I don't care about color, i just want something I KNOW is high quality. It doesn't hurt that they glue the boots to the wires.

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Old 08-20-2023, 12:19 PM   #12
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Let's be honest, if people have a 400, they should say 400. If folks have a 402, they should say 402.

I used a set from a 1976 454 for a chevy C20. But maybe they aren't the correct lengths for folks who want a very clean and organized look.
The brand is a popular very high quality Japanese brand--popular with Japanese car folks for many many years--NGK.

NGK 51373
~$30

They're bright blue which might bother some folks, I don't care about color, i just want something I KNOW is high quality. It doesn't hurt that they glue the boots to the wires.
Really? When GM never marketed or badged them as 402s. If it was in a truck they called it a 400 in a car it was a 396.
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Old 08-20-2023, 02:25 PM   #13
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Really? When GM never marketed or badged them as 402s. If it was in a truck they called it a 400 in a car it was a 396.
Ya, tell me 'bout it. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=834934

But my point isn't about how absurd GM is, but rather about helping folks specify what exactly they're working on so the get the most accurate info.


I don't think I've ever seen quite as much confusion as I've seen on GM forums with people mixing up 400 sbc's and 402 BBC as a result of GM's odd badging and literature.
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Old 08-20-2023, 03:43 PM   #14
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Let's be honest, if people have a 400, they should say 400. If folks have a 402, they should say 402.
Sorry for misidentifying as a 400 BB
SPID clearly shows a 396....


Thanks for the tip on NGK plug wires....Don.
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Old 08-20-2023, 06:12 PM   #15
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I didn't mean to start a battle here! If I had looked past the "400", I would have seen the BB and would have known it was a 396 or a 402, regardless of what Chevrolet called them.
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I didn't mean to start a battle here! If I had looked past the "400", I would have seen the BB and would have known it was a 396 or a 402, regardless of what Chevrolet called them.
Yeah I apologize for coming off confrontational. Sadly just reading (my) words on a screen can leave out context; I don't want to sound like a bully or like I have a genuine problem.
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Old 08-22-2023, 04:28 PM   #17
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Re: Sorry...another HEI plug wire thread

Deed is done.
I bought Napa part # bel700242. Straight boot on the plug, 90 on the dizzy.
#5 was a bit short but I made it work. All others were goo to go.

Thanks all...Don.
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I have a stock 400 BB, no ram horn manifold.

I'd read here, plug wires for a 75 vette will fit. Bought a set at Advance. The clips for both ends did not click on as they should. They were real loose. No one there could help further.

Another search here, I bought a set of AC/Delco 9088S wires. The plug end is a 90 vs. a straight boot. They are way too close to the exhaust manifold. So close, I can not get the #4 wire on the plug. They are going back to Amazon.

Another 2 hours of searching...
... maybe AC/Delco 9508D will fit.
... maybe Napa bel700103 will fit. This one has a coil wire which I still have.

I know some will say...buy bulk, make your own. I tried that years ago. In my case, was a waste of $'s. Never could get the connections correct.

Thanks much...Don.
Silicone Taylor Pro Series 8mm 76032 spark plug wires, they're made to fit your application. They fit my 71 BBC with a Delco HEI nicely.
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