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Old 10-25-2024, 09:30 PM   #26
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Re: Post engine fire clean up

LizardSkin has a application kit. A spray gun that has a very large ventri to provide enough suction to pull the material out of the cup. It requires a decent size compressor to push out the air needed at about 70lbs. The material is very thick. Application kit is 109 buck. To do the job right you got to have it and big enough compressor or you're screwed.
FYI, material cleans up easy if not past the 1 hour or so flash time. Water based. Smells like acrylic house paint. As long as you have the needed air, the application job is a 2 out of 10 easy. 1 easy, 10 difficult.
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Old 10-27-2024, 01:06 PM   #27
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LizardSkin has a application kit. A spray gun that has a very large ventri to provide enough suction to pull the material out of the cup. It requires a decent size compressor to push out the air needed at about 70lbs. The material is very thick. Application kit is 109 buck. To do the job right you got to have it and big enough compressor or you're screwed.
FYI, material cleans up easy if not past the 1 hour or so flash time. Water based. Smells like acrylic house paint. As long as you have the needed air, the application job is a 2 out of 10 easy. 1 easy, 10 difficult.
My compressor can probably do the job. Horsepower and CFM ratings are accurate, not like back in the day when they were wildly inflated by some manufacturers.

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40 gallon tank
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Air hose is 3/8", fittings are 1/4" NPT

How much splatter is there? My cab is finished. I will pull the carpet & backing, gas tank, but not anything under or in the dash.
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Old 10-27-2024, 02:15 PM   #28
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It is way easier than masking for paint. You are using much higher air pressure so make sure masked areas are stuck down really well. You don't get atomized overspray. The spray pattern is tight but you get some edging. The gun comes with a straight and 90 tip to assist with overhead spray like under dash. It works just OK. The material and spray pattern very easy to control but I would still mask cab and doors as if spray painting. I masked exterior but found it not really necessary. The biggest issue would be if you blew past an edge while shooting up.
I have some left over. I think I might pull the head liner and shoot the roof. Sun gets hot in my area.
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Old 10-27-2024, 02:37 PM   #29
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It is way easier than masking for paint. You are using much higher air pressure so make sure masked areas are stuck down really well. You don't get atomized overspray. The spray pattern is tight but you get some edging.
Thanks. I'll look into it. Had planned on using a DynaMat knockoff material that has worked well in the past, but the LizardSkin looks like it would do a better job.

The cab stays cool even on 95-100 degree days, so what I'm looking for is insulation from exhaust, engine, and road noise. Wish I could do the inside of the firewall, but that would be a nightmare.
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Old 10-27-2024, 04:21 PM   #30
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If just doing floor the a gallon will do. If back wall I would get the 2 gallon and have plenty.
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Old 10-27-2024, 04:59 PM   #31
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I just shot the roof. It is more stipally because I used the 90 tip and the material has been in a resealed container all week and a bit thicker. Also hanging upside down pulls it some. The 90 degree angled tip splatters more. I didn't cover driver door. No issues. One little splatter dot on white door
panal. Wiped right off with wet paper towel. Easy to control. My gun is splattered on outside, but still clean enough inside to provide good results. You are welcome to use. Just send a mail label and back when done. PM me and I can give box info.
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Old 10-27-2024, 08:48 PM   #32
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Thanks for the offer. Will let you know what I decide to do.
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Old 10-27-2024, 09:55 PM   #33
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Good job, that looks great! I did the same thing to my 72 C20. I sprayed the Lizardskin heat barrier and sound deadener. Then applied Flatline Barrier, then my carpet with jute. It made a world of difference in both noise and heat reduction. The Flateline Barrier also had material to put between the door panels and door. Luckily a friend of mine did his 67 Camaro with Lizardskin and loaned me his spray gun so I did not have to purchase one.
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Old 10-28-2024, 07:24 AM   #34
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Great work on the rehab.
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Old 10-29-2024, 10:54 PM   #35
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Re: Post engine fire clean up

It look like your efforts are having good results. I tend to be anxious about fire from previous experience and I have so many fire extinguishers lying around my house and garage/all vehicles now... hopefully my anxiety response will at least reduce my risk of bad outcomes in the future. I have firefighters in the family so in my family, the rule is extinguishers in the kitchen, garage, upstairs, and every vehicle. most people don't have a fire extinguisher in their car but it is definitely a good idea. I was driving through the middle of nowhere in north FL after a band gig a few years ago at 2 am and the truck in front of us caught fire . Nothing any of us could do at the time but pull over and watch it burn and commiserate with the driver and give him a ride to the nearest city. Would have been nice to save the day with a fire extinguisher.
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I tend to be anxious about fire from previous experience and I have so many fire extinguishers lying around my house and garage/all vehicles now... hopefully my anxiety response will at least reduce my risk of bad outcomes in the future.
One in every vehicle is probably a good idea. We have always kept them in the garage and kitchen and I check the state of charge at least yearly.

What are your recommendations for garage and vehicles?
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