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Also, your statement of my "all" is no different than your statement that all 72's came with ONE key. I say this specifically as there is no evidence to support a reason my door locks or ignition switch were ever changed out...though I suppose it was possible for some odd reason, as it is a 50 year old truck
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04-05-2023, 05:51 PM | #28 |
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On three of my trucks, the Ignition and Door Lock key was the same.
'67 K/10 Suburban -- Key [originally octagonal] worked Ign, Doors and Tailgate. '68 C/10 Stepside -- Key [also originally octagonal] Ign and Doors. Glovebox, added later, was a different key. '71 K/1500 GMC Jimmy -- Key works in Ign and Doors. Tailgate key was different. Due to wear on daily drivers over decades, I've gone to the rectangular headed keys. I've had the best re-key results from Home Depot's ''robot'' key copy machine. Worst results from ''helpful'' amatuers at Ace Hardware, who screwed it up 3 times in a row.
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The only difference is that my "ALL" is true, and I have the Briggs & Stratton, GM lock and key books to prove it.. I have a good idea. You rely on a web site that has no idea what they are even selling (if you don't believe that call and ask them a question) and I'll rely on my 46 years of locksmith experience.... It's pretty obvious that you aren't going to believe me no matter what I say so this will be my last reply to you. LockDoc
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04-05-2023, 11:25 PM | #30 |
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LockDoc is right.
In post 4 I said my '69 came with only one rectangular head key (actually 2 identical rectangular keys). I was surprised because all the GM cars I was familiar with different keys (actually 2 of each type). I am 100% sure since I bought the truck new. I even asked the dealer about it. He said that was the norm.
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04-07-2023, 01:45 PM | #32 |
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I just noticed that I misspoke in post 30 when I described my keys as having hexagonal shaped heads. I have edited post 30 to say "rectangular". Sorry if that has caused any confusion.
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I am with LockDoc, my 68 only came with a single key that unlocks the doors and works the ignition switch. I remember this was common with GM vehicles. Having owned several 60s era GM vehicles this was common. In actuality, the key should also unlock the glove box as well (if equipped with a lock mechanism).
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Nice info
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11-07-2024, 09:51 PM | #35 |
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Like many, my assumption was that all GM's have always had two keys.
This led to an impromptu Abbott and Costello routine via PM with the Doc about getting replacements for a key that never existed ;-)
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I think the assumption came from cars of the period may have had separate keys for door and ignition. I got my Mom's 70 Cutlass as a hand-me-down and it had the separate keys. I also remember to lock the door from the outside you could push the lock button down and then while holding the door handle button in while closing, it would lock.
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Yes, '67 and up the cars had two keys, Primary for the ignition and Secondary for the doors.... EDIT: This is wrong. I think 1960 or '61 was the year GM went to the two lock system on the cars. All of the locks still had the same key profile until '66, (Groove 15) but ignition/doors & trunk/glove were keyed different. Sorry about that.... .
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For a 71 C10 did it come with a rectangular or small octagon key? I've seen posts indicating rectangular keys only came to the trucks in 73. The small octagon keys seem rare now.
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Rectangular for the '71's. When GM started using the dished ignition switches it made the octagon keys hard to get a hold of to turn them. People started complaining about it so GM came out with the longer rectangular head keys. For the trucks that was in early '68, so all 67's had the octagon key, and some of the early '68's used them. Yes, original "A" and "C" groove, octagon head key blanks with the knock-out feature for the code stamping are hard to find. .
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This is confusing. I've had a number of old GM cars, which consisted of many 65s, a 64, a 67, a 70 and a 72. They ALL used the same key on the ignition and doors and the secondary key only worked on the trunk and the glovebox if the glovebox had a lock. Dad had a number of 60s and 70s GM cars and they were all the same. This covers Chevy, Olds, Pontiac and Buick.
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LockDoc is the best. He's given me no reason to doubt him. I've owned 9 different 67-72 Chevy trucks and one key does it all. 67 Chevelle I had one key for doors and ignition another for the trunk.
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This is another possible solution if you don't know the condition of your locks.
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I had a brain fart on that one. I think the GM cars had the two lock system since about '60, or '61. I tried looking it up in my books but I couldn't find an exact year. They still had only one key profile (Groove 15) until '66, but the locks were keyed different. I will edit my post above to reflect that. Thanks for jarring my brain to check on it.
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The older I get the more of them I seem to have. What was my name again?...
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I was surprized to find the Door Key for my '67 K/10 Suburban actually unlocked the back barn door on my '03 Tahoe. [ Even though the 21st Century keys have teeth on both edges.]
Also I was able to remove the '03 's Ignition key from the lock while it was running. I know I can pull out the keys from the running Igns of both my '71 GMC Jimmy and '68 C/10, but I thought that was due to wear.
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I would have to replace 3 door locks and one Ign cylinder. For the near future, I find the Key Out While Running to be a handy feature, so the engine can warm up, while I go back into the house to find something I forgot -- wallet, glasses, important documents, etc.
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Well, I guess you wouldn't have to carry a remote....
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Ha ha. I didn't get a Remote Key Fob. They're cheap on Amazon, but until I get the Door Lock/Window Toggle 8-Button Switch gripe sorted, it would be wasted effort.
Right now the 'Hoe is programmed in Soccer Mom Mode: when I hit Park, ALL the door locks open. [To let the screaming brats out.] Except I sometimes work Downtown or in bad neighborhoods, so after shutting down, I have to lock each door manually.
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