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Re: First LSx swap in progress
No hurry on the manifolds, I don't have a big use for them. Whenever it works for you.
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Re: First LSx swap in progress
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Well, I set the engine in today but I'm not real happy with The POL engine mount frame brackets. The drivers side fits like a glove and all of the bolts dropped right in, but the passengers side is another story. The top bolt holes line up with the holes in the frame but the bracket is a good 1/2" above the frame rail, and the cross member holes don't even start to line up. I'm wondering if I could just cut the piece of tubing off that the long bolt for the rubber mount goes through, bolt the frame bracket to the frame & cross member, lower the engine down with the rubber mount all assembled and then weld the piece of tubing back to the frame mount. That might be the easiest way to correct it. I have the engine in the I-6 position but I may have to move it forward because the large hole in the valve cover for the crankcase vent hose is against the firewall. First two pictures are where I trimmed the frame for the frame mount brackets. Third one is with the engine installed, fourth is the non-fitting frame bracket. LockDoc
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Re: First LSx swap in progress
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The Hooker Cast headers fit really good with lots of clearance. In the second picture you can see the outlet in the valve cover close to the firewall. LockDoc
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Re: First LSx swap in progress
wondering why i cant see your "attached images"
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Re: First LSx swap in progress
I've been having the same issue today too.
Engine looks good sitting in place Lockdoc...too bad about the right side mount...one more issue to overcome. |
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Re: First LSx swap in progress
Try logging off the site and logging back on. I have had the same problem tonight but when I leave and come back they show up. I'm sure it has something to do with the server upgrade that is taking place....
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Re: First LSx swap in progress
Dang Leon, how many trucks are in your fleet?
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Re: First LSx swap in progress
I wonder if one side is 67-72 and the other is for a square? Im led to believe a square's frame if 1/2" taller at that point. Me being me, I'd pull 'em both and hacky choppy till I had a matched set.
Also, POR makes a manifold gray that works great. Almost a year on ours, looks like the day they got painted.
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Re: First LSx swap in progress
Leon, thanks for the link to your LS swap. I'm going to be doing one as well. I have a lot to learn about the electrical components of these swaps. I'm old school… and this part of it is new to me. I'll be following this one. Nice looking build.
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Re: First LSx swap in progress
I have nine trucks at this time, of those 5 are running driving trucks and I am currently working on two of the others.
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Re: First LSx swap in progress
Leon, Can you move your engine mounts to that forward hole on the frame?
With the engine position slid back that far, the top of the bell housing may be hitting the pinch weld on the cab floor. Just a thought.
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Re: First LSx swap in progress
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I probably could. I have about 3/4" between the pinch weld and the top of the trans, the TH350 cross member bolted into the front set of holes in the frame with no problem, and the short TH350 drive shaft I had fit perfectly. I checked all of that stuff out before I drilled the new holes for the mounts. I wanted to keep it as far back as I could hoping that the low mount A/C compressor would clear. I will find out pretty shortly here as I am headed out to try it. LockDoc
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Re: First LSx swap in progress
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Well, the A/C compressor fits but it doesn't. It's pretty tight. I am going to check out the aftermarket top mount ones although I would like to keep it low.. Power steering box is bolted in place and connected to the cross link. I need to get the dash painted before I can install the tilt and do the inside wiring loom for the LS. I got the stock under dash wire loom modified, since it was a I6 3ott I had to add a neutral start circuit and rewire the cluster plug from idiot lights to gauges, so it's ready to go back in. I'm going to remove the windshield tomorrow so I can check for rust around it and get the dash ready to paint. LockDoc __________________
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Re: First LSx swap in progress
You don't want to use the F body compressor anyway since it is a variable compressor. It will work, but not great by any means. I wish I had put a Sanden in my Nova when I did the swap years ago, but got cheap and tried the Camaro one. It never worked as well as I had hoped.
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Re: First LSx swap in progress
Leon, just be aware from the start if you go with the Holley bracket that there is more to buy than just the bracket at $150 or so. The installation kit is another $100 (on my LQ4, there are two major components in the installation kit and one of them you can't use.... grrrrr) Then you have to have a new idler (forgot exactly what that cost but I think it was around $60, then you also have to have a new belt. So, what started off at $150 for the bracket ended up being around $350 when all was said and done. The bracket fits and operates well, but it is expensive. HTH
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Re: First LSx swap in progress
As it's a 67, are you converting it to later p/s? Wonder if going into an ls swap, and 81-up box/hose would work better? Assuming you know the trick about the big lug on the back of the pump.
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I put a '76 PS box on it. I was just going to convert the later hoses to the earlier box. Not sure what you mean about the big lug. LockDoc
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I always shim mine out. There are some naysayers out there and I respect their opinions, but I have never had a problem doing this. I use solid spacers and not washers and move it out just so I can see a sliver of light between the box and frame, with washers & lock washers inside the frame. Make sure the spacers are the same diameter as the threaded bosses on the steering box. (I think 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 inch) If you have to get longer bolts make sure they are grade 8 bolts. I am not saying this is what you should do as that would be your call. If I was going to modify the frame I would cut the area out and weld in a curved piece of the same thickness, cut from a piece of pipe, or hand formed. The contour of the piece should match the shape of the steering box. Just my 2¢ worth. LockDoc
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Re: First LSx swap in progress
He means taking the fitting out of the back of your old pump and putting it in the new pump. However, this can only be done on a truck style pump, and not an F body type. You will need the F body hose to clear the pulley since it's in the way of where most hoses would want to come out of the pump. An easy way would be to get a newer power steering box that uses O ring fittings instead of double flare, I think around '81-'87 trucks. This is what I usually do, and it has the extra added benefit of being fewer turns lock to lock, which makes the truck drive (feel) a little more like a modern truck.
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Thanks, I will check into that. LockDoc
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Sorry to jam you up, Leon! Eric as usual did a much better job of saying what I meant. Just trying to help you dodge a bump in the road.
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No problem Chip. The LS is giving me some unique challenges that I haven't had with the carb'ed engines. So far I'm enjoying the ride. It keeps my brain working... ![]() LockDoc
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