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boostat4500 · 03-14-2007, 01:09 AM

What can I do to get this thing to stop better? Eventually I'll do rear disc brakes but don't have the money right now. Are there any brakes off a newer truck that will bolt up easy by chance, something with a bigger caliper perhaps? I haven't had much luck finding upgrade brake parts so far. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Frizzle Fry · 03-14-2007, 01:52 AM

The 71-72 front discs on my 69 work very well. It's actually shocking how fast this big ol' rig can scrub speed. It's not an Indy car but it stop as well as my 2001 Tahoe (minus ABS). Are you sure everything is working properly?

I see that you have a lift with big tires so that may be the difference. I just saw and "upgraded" front disc kit in one of my catalogs. I think it was about $200 for calipers and rotors, but I'm not sure how much better they perform.

JimKshortstep4x4 · 03-14-2007, 03:14 AM

We put the 3/4 ton booster/master cylinder on my son's Burb. We have used it on trucks and it is a good upgrade. (The Burb is not on the road yet, but soon will be).

Jim

boostat4500 · 03-14-2007, 09:48 AM

I'd heard about the 3/4 ton booster, but when I look up part numbers, it looks like the burbs come with them stock. Is that true? What catalog did you see that kit in? Thanks.

Frizzle Fry · 03-14-2007, 12:30 PM

After I posted my first reply I was thinking about the 3/4 ton stuff. They have bigger rotors and calipers too don't they?

71meangreenc10 · 03-14-2007, 12:39 PM

Yes, the rotor and calipers for a 3/4 ton are different, too include the spindles and probably the tie rods too. I do know about the spindles since I have changed my 3/4tn to a 1/2 ton suspension. There is a difference between the boosters too.

Smitty

bagged91 · 03-14-2007, 02:53 PM

The 1/2 tons have a "single diaphram" booster, the 3/4 has the "dual diaphram" booster. Not sure if there are any differences on the rotors/calipers from a 4 x 4....

earl87gta · 03-14-2007, 07:30 PM

you have a 4x4 so the easy and cheap thing to do would be get an axle out of a 3/4 ton axles you should be able to get a set for 150 to 300. Then get the 3/4 ton booster and master $80 by them sepritly not together dont know why but autozone orillys all of them charge you 50 more for the pair togther you will have around 400 in the hole swap but you will stop a lot better.

Frizzle Fry · 03-15-2007, 11:53 AM

Then you're going to 8-lug right? That means new wheels too if so.

You can do a rear disc install for ~$200-$300 depending on what you buy new/used. There's a good thread on Impala SS rear discs in the truck forum if you want to go that route.

boostat4500 · 03-15-2007, 04:19 PM

Thanks for all the sugestions. I think I'll definetley try the 3/4 ton booster first. 2-300 for rear discs is feasble. I'll have to look a little more into that, have a link by chance? I'll look into doing the 3/4 ton axles too, I have to swap in a Ford front end anyway to get 4 wheel drive back so I'll see what I can find.

SB406 · 03-15-2007, 04:29 PM

Hit the pedal harder.

Seriously though, I'm a fan of the 3/4 ton booster. Works nice.

Frizzle Fry · 03-15-2007, 06:47 PM

Rear Disc Link

earl87gta · 03-16-2007, 07:38 PM

I got my rear disk brakets for 45 and calipers for 100. with new break lines every thing less then 200 in to it. But that was with out emergency break its going to cost alittle more the eldarodo calipers are expencive.

Dadsredwagon · 03-16-2007, 09:03 PM

booster first.... I have a Jeep cherokee that i went from a single diaprham booster to a dual booster One of the better mods I did. good luck!

centsless · 03-17-2007, 09:01 AM

3/4 ton power brake setup
I have one for sale here....

earl87gta · 03-17-2007, 10:19 AM

I bought my new 3/4 master and booster from auto zone for $80. But if you dont have power brakes already you will have to get a used set for the mounting hardware.

boostat4500 · 03-17-2007, 02:57 PM

Thanks for the link! Looks pretty simple. I think I'll step it up a notch ( over the impala ) and try to do 4th gen f-body calipers since this things heavier than a pickup. Not sure about what rotors yet ( being 6 lug instead of 5) though.
earl87gta- I assume you are 6 lug also, what did you get the rotors from? Could I just use a set of front rotors? Also, I do have power brakes all ready.

seth 69 sub · 03-20-2007, 09:31 AM

i got a kit from classic performance products my 69 sub stops on a dime check out pics on lets see some subs page 11 or pm me here

Frizzle Fry · 03-21-2007, 02:09 PM

Just found this in FAQ (start at post 13) Turns out I have a 3/4 ton booster! That explains things

03-14-2007, 01:09 AM	#1
boostat4500 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 346	How can I stop better? What can I do to get this thing to stop better? Eventually I'll do rear disc brakes but don't have the money right now. Are there any brakes off a newer truck that will bolt up easy by chance, something with a bigger caliper perhaps? I haven't had much luck finding upgrade brake parts so far. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. __________________ 1971 Suburban 4x4, LQ4 6.0L, 4L80E, etc.

03-14-2007, 01:52 AM	#2
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: How can I stop better? The 71-72 front discs on my 69 work very well. It's actually shocking how fast this big ol' rig can scrub speed. It's not an Indy car but it stop as well as my 2001 Tahoe (minus ABS). Are you sure everything is working properly? I see that you have a lift with big tires so that may be the difference. I just saw and "upgraded" front disc kit in one of my catalogs. I think it was about $200 for calipers and rotors, but I'm not sure how much better they perform. Last edited by Frizzle Fry; 03-14-2007 at 01:55 AM.

03-14-2007, 03:14 AM	#3
JimKshortstep4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Muskegon,MI,USA Posts: 6,026	Re: How can I stop better? We put the 3/4 ton booster/master cylinder on my son's Burb. We have used it on trucks and it is a good upgrade. (The Burb is not on the road yet, but soon will be). Jim __________________ 1971 Shortbox step side 4x4, 350 sbc, 3:07 rear end 1965 Impala SS 400 sbc, Muncie rock crusher 1966 Impala SS 396 bbc, TH 400 1969 El Camino, 350 sbc, TH 350 1971 Snowplow built on a Blazer frame 1972 GMC Short bed, stepside, TH 400, 427 BBC

03-14-2007, 09:48 AM	#4
boostat4500 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 346	Re: How can I stop better? I'd heard about the 3/4 ton booster, but when I look up part numbers, it looks like the burbs come with them stock. Is that true? What catalog did you see that kit in? Thanks. __________________ 1971 Suburban 4x4, LQ4 6.0L, 4L80E, etc.

03-14-2007, 12:30 PM	#5
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: How can I stop better? After I posted my first reply I was thinking about the 3/4 ton stuff. They have bigger rotors and calipers too don't they?

03-14-2007, 12:39 PM	#6
71meangreenc10 Its a Truck Thing...... Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sierra Vista, Arizona Posts: 3,179	Re: How can I stop better? Yes, the rotor and calipers for a 3/4 ton are different, too include the spindles and probably the tie rods too. I do know about the spindles since I have changed my 3/4tn to a 1/2 ton suspension. There is a difference between the boosters too. Smitty __________________ 71 C10 283/3SPD Full Resto 71 GMC 1500 Sierra Grande http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=518599 70 C10 Suburban Former military GSA truck. 72 Chevy Blazer 4X4, Sloppy Jo, Mountain Climber. Wife says no more trucks. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=707378 72 GMC 1 Ton Motor Home, wife said no more trucks until she saw this one. Gen 3 6.0/4L80E 4.10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=761110 68 GMC Suburban was 3/4 ton, now 1/2.Wife shook her head 71 C30 Wrecker 71 C20 Scott-Bilt As weird as it gets..BB Cheyenne AC Truck 68 GMC Long Stepside. They keep following me home 69 C30 Former Motor Home, Flat Bed time 70 G20 Red-E-Kamp Conversion "I'm your Boogy Van"

03-14-2007, 02:53 PM	#7
bagged91 Out draggin' Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Pitman,NJ Posts: 1,574	Re: How can I stop better? The 1/2 tons have a "single diaphram" booster, the 3/4 has the "dual diaphram" booster. Not sure if there are any differences on the rotors/calipers from a 4 x 4.... __________________ 91 GMC Xcab LB-Bags/bd/caddy clip SOLD 72 C10 Cheyenne Super LWB SOLD 92 GMC K1500 Burb 72 C10 Burb (ex. Cheesewagon)SOLD 72 C20 Burb parts truck 71 C10 Burb "project"

03-14-2007, 07:30 PM	#8
earl87gta Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kingsport TN Posts: 4,641	Re: How can I stop better? you have a 4x4 so the easy and cheap thing to do would be get an axle out of a 3/4 ton axles you should be able to get a set for 150 to 300. Then get the 3/4 ton booster and master $80 by them sepritly not together dont know why but autozone orillys all of them charge you 50 more for the pair togther you will have around 400 in the hole swap but you will stop a lot better. __________________ Earl 68 2500 4x4 GMC Burb Last edited by earl87gta; 03-14-2007 at 07:31 PM.

03-15-2007, 11:53 AM	#9
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: How can I stop better? Then you're going to 8-lug right? That means new wheels too if so. You can do a rear disc install for ~$200-$300 depending on what you buy new/used. There's a good thread on Impala SS rear discs in the truck forum if you want to go that route. Last edited by Frizzle Fry; 03-15-2007 at 11:54 AM.

03-15-2007, 04:19 PM	#10
boostat4500 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 346	Re: How can I stop better? Thanks for all the sugestions. I think I'll definetley try the 3/4 ton booster first. 2-300 for rear discs is feasble. I'll have to look a little more into that, have a link by chance? I'll look into doing the 3/4 ton axles too, I have to swap in a Ford front end anyway to get 4 wheel drive back so I'll see what I can find. __________________ 1971 Suburban 4x4, LQ4 6.0L, 4L80E, etc. Last edited by boostat4500; 03-15-2007 at 04:21 PM.

03-15-2007, 04:29 PM	#11
SB406 FORD is a 4 letter word. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Western NY Posts: 99	Re: How can I stop better? Hit the pedal harder. Seriously though, I'm a fan of the 3/4 ton booster. Works nice. __________________ '71 406 GMC Short Box Fleetside - Daily Driver '79 350 Chevy K-5 Blazer - On-going Project (Mudder)www.wnyoffroad.com '58 LT1 Chevy Short Box Step Side - Next Project

03-15-2007, 06:47 PM	#12
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: How can I stop better? Rear Disc Link

03-16-2007, 07:38 PM	#13
earl87gta Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kingsport TN Posts: 4,641	Re: How can I stop better? I got my rear disk brakets for 45 and calipers for 100. with new break lines every thing less then 200 in to it. But that was with out emergency break its going to cost alittle more the eldarodo calipers are expencive. __________________ Earl 68 2500 4x4 GMC Burb

03-16-2007, 09:03 PM	#14
Dadsredwagon Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Spring,TX Posts: 342	Re: How can I stop better? booster first.... I have a Jeep cherokee that i went from a single diaprham booster to a dual booster One of the better mods I did. good luck!

03-17-2007, 09:01 AM	#15
centsless sufficiently talented fool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Forest Hill, MD Posts: 2,231	Re: How can I stop better? 3/4 ton power brake setup I have one for sale here.... __________________ "it's impossible to be surrounded by idiots when you are part of the circle" 2003 Suburban 2002 Pontiac Montana 1981 Corvette 1966 Impala Convertible Click here to support the board



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03-17-2007, 10:19 AM	#16
earl87gta Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kingsport TN Posts: 4,641	Re: How can I stop better? I bought my new 3/4 master and booster from auto zone for $80. But if you dont have power brakes already you will have to get a used set for the mounting hardware. __________________ Earl 68 2500 4x4 GMC Burb Last edited by earl87gta; 03-17-2007 at 10:21 AM.

03-17-2007, 02:57 PM	#17
boostat4500 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 346	Re: How can I stop better? Thanks for the link! Looks pretty simple. I think I'll step it up a notch ( over the impala ) and try to do 4th gen f-body calipers since this things heavier than a pickup. Not sure about what rotors yet ( being 6 lug instead of 5) though. earl87gta- I assume you are 6 lug also, what did you get the rotors from? Could I just use a set of front rotors? Also, I do have power brakes all ready. __________________ 1971 Suburban 4x4, LQ4 6.0L, 4L80E, etc. Last edited by boostat4500; 03-18-2007 at 10:26 AM.

03-20-2007, 09:31 AM	#18
seth 69 sub Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: wichita ks Posts: 10	Re: How can I stop better? i got a kit from classic performance products my 69 sub stops on a dime check out pics on lets see some subs page 11 or pm me here

03-21-2007, 02:09 PM	#19
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: How can I stop better? Just found this in FAQ (start at post 13) Turns out I have a 3/4 ton booster! That explains things Last edited by Frizzle Fry; 03-21-2007 at 02:10 PM.

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