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Low87 · 04-02-2003, 11:02 AM

Tonight I'll be cleaning a hopefully painting the rear half of my frame. I figure I'll start by taking a wire brush to everything and getting it clean. Trying to figure the best way to do this with everything still together. Any suggestions? Should be lots of tedious fun!

LOHRTBT · 04-02-2003, 11:37 AM

i would get a compressor and a grinding wheel or wire attachement for it. Then order some POR 15 and coat everything on it.

*1FaastC10* · 04-02-2003, 12:23 PM

Dave, are you forgetting that rust makes POR stick better?

LOHRTBT · 04-02-2003, 12:25 PM

but you want a smooth surface to have a smooth finish.
all you would have to do is after cleaning it off ...spray it with water and wait a couple days ..surface rust

LOHRTBT · 04-02-2003, 12:37 PM

So....Costanza...what your saying is that POR 15 is Repelled by clean surface!! lol It will slide off unless it has rust to help it stick and look good?? ?hehehhee

BaggedC10 · 04-02-2003, 12:56 PM

I painted my frame with POR-15 from the cab back and would not recommend it. I used a wire brush to remove the loose crap, and then used POR's prep. products. My frame had very little rust and it did not adhere very well. I would only recommend this product if your frame IS rusted, and I mean true rust---Not surface rust that can be sanded off.

I would recommend www.EastwoodCompany.com 's "Chassis Black". Easy to apply, very durable, and it looks awesome.

LOHRTBT · 04-02-2003, 02:52 PM

I know tons of guys that have used it on rear axles and diff's and did the process like I said,...they love it and it works great.

use what you want Greg...but I dont know of any other product that gets so much praise.

love it loud · 04-02-2003, 02:57 PM

i'm a loyal fan of por-15, never had a single problem with it, ever, on anything..

**Captkaos** · 04-02-2003, 03:47 PM

POR15 will only stick to metal, and it adheres better to RUSTED metal. It WON'T stick to paint regardless of how much you scratch it up, if you have paint on the frame, get rid of it.

I have only praise for POR15 and it stuck well to rusted as well as sandblasted parts.
Example: (closeup shows how rusty it was and I used a putty knife to scrape the paint, that's all) Looks pretty good to me

http://www.captkaoscustoms.com/images/rustydiff2.jpg
http://www.captkaoscustoms.com/images/Eatonsetup.jpg
http://www.captkaoscustoms.com/images/POR15diff1.jpg

How I cleaned it up..
1) Easy Off Oven Cleaner (just followed the directions) More than one application ( 2) I believe
2)scraped off the paint off that would come off,
3) Easy Off again
4) Wash off
5) Dry (air hose)
6) POR 15.

Low87 · 04-02-2003, 05:29 PM

Looks good! I hadn't thought about Easy Off. Thanks for the pics Chris.

**Captkaos** · 04-02-2003, 06:09 PM

I use Easy-Off to clean all greasy parts. You're welcome.

Blue Beard · 04-02-2003, 06:24 PM

Be sure to use a mask for all the dust.....

MSL · 04-02-2003, 06:35 PM

And eye protection.

Low87 · 04-02-2003, 06:52 PM

Thanks for the warnings guys, don't worry about that, I never forget my safety equipment!

MSL · 04-02-2003, 07:02 PM

In the past My father and I have always wire wheeld our frames and used a sealer then painted them. I dont remeber what the sealer was.

bigblock73 · 04-03-2003, 08:59 AM

Whatever you do, if you use POR-15...DO NOT get it on your skin...the stuff is damn near impossible to get off!

-Jeff

Low87 · 04-03-2003, 09:49 AM

I took the wire wheel to it last night. Probably not going to use POR-15 since I couldn't get all the paint off. I guess I'll just have to find a rust inhibitor paint to use.

**Captkaos** · 04-03-2003, 06:22 PM

Use some Easy-off on it and a paint scraper. If you have already done that, get some paint stripper and put it on there.

MSL · 04-03-2003, 06:29 PM

If easy off doesnt work thats weird that stuff works awesome.

*1FaastC10* · 04-03-2003, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LOHRTBT
but you want a smooth surface to have a smooth finish.
all you would have to do is after cleaning it off ...spray it with water and wait a couple days ..surface rust

you can brush POR on, and get a surface just as smooth as it you sprayed it. i lays out very nice.

and watch it with the costanza jokes cranktoe!

Low87 · 04-03-2003, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1FaastC10
and watch it with the costanza jokes cranktoe!

Hey Jeremy,

LOHRTBT · 04-03-2003, 07:20 PM

LMFAO!!!!

*1FaastC10* · 04-03-2003, 07:28 PM

hey Greg....

LOHRTBT · 04-03-2003, 07:32 PM

HAHAHAA!! Shut the Black Box up?? ok!! haha

*1FaastC10* · 04-03-2003, 07:38 PM

had to edit it so it is acceptable for the forum... ya know women and children present... DUH!

04-02-2003, 11:02 AM	#1
Low87 been here longer than Liz Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 2,437	frame clean up Tonight I'll be cleaning a hopefully painting the rear half of my frame. I figure I'll start by taking a wire brush to everything and getting it clean. Trying to figure the best way to do this with everything still together. Any suggestions? Should be lots of tedious fun! __________________ ~Greg~ Mac's Garage '87 SWB 6/8 drop "Piso" '08 CCSB Silverado DD the departed '89 GMC K5 Jimmy 4x4 "Rusty Nuts" '77 Chevy K5 Blazer 2wd '83 Chevy stepside "You get what you pay for" - Mike 'swervin ervin' Ervin

04-02-2003, 11:37 AM	#2
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	i would get a compressor and a grinding wheel or wire attachement for it. Then order some POR 15 and coat everything on it. __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

04-02-2003, 12:25 PM	#4
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	but you want a smooth surface to have a smooth finish. all you would have to do is after cleaning it off ...spray it with water and wait a couple days ..surface rust __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84 Last edited by LOHRTBT; 04-02-2003 at 12:27 PM.

04-02-2003, 12:37 PM	#5
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	So....Costanza...what your saying is that POR 15 is Repelled by clean surface!! lol It will slide off unless it has rust to help it stick and look good?? ?hehehhee __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

04-02-2003, 12:56 PM	#6
BaggedC10 Under construction! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,065	I painted my frame with POR-15 from the cab back and would not recommend it. I used a wire brush to remove the loose crap, and then used POR's prep. products. My frame had very little rust and it did not adhere very well. I would only recommend this product if your frame IS rusted, and I mean true rust---Not surface rust that can be sanded off. I would recommend www.EastwoodCompany.com 's "Chassis Black". Easy to apply, very durable, and it looks awesome. __________________ 2001 Silverado bagged on 22's. Sold Last edited by BaggedC10; 04-02-2003 at 12:58 PM.

04-02-2003, 12:23 PM	#3
1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,399	Dave, are you forgetting that rust makes POR stick better?

04-02-2003, 02:52 PM	#7
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	I know tons of guys that have used it on rear axles and diff's and did the process like I said,...they love it and it works great. use what you want Greg...but I dont know of any other product that gets so much praise. __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

04-02-2003, 02:57 PM	#8
love it loud Calibration Engineer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Posts: 361	i'm a loyal fan of por-15, never had a single problem with it, ever, on anything.. __________________ CANADIAN CONNECTION

04-02-2003, 03:47 PM	#9
Captkaos www.73-87chevytrucks.com Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 6,935	POR15 will only stick to metal, and it adheres better to RUSTED metal. It WON'T stick to paint regardless of how much you scratch it up, if you have paint on the frame, get rid of it. I have only praise for POR15 and it stuck well to rusted as well as sandblasted parts. Example: (closeup shows how rusty it was and I used a putty knife to scrape the paint, that's all) Looks pretty good to me http://www.captkaoscustoms.com/images/rustydiff2.jpg http://www.captkaoscustoms.com/images/Eatonsetup.jpg http://www.captkaoscustoms.com/images/POR15diff1.jpg How I cleaned it up.. 1) Easy Off Oven Cleaner (just followed the directions) More than one application ( 2) I believe 2)scraped off the paint off that would come off, 3) Easy Off again 4) Wash off 5) Dry (air hose) 6) POR 15. __________________ Chris Lucas 1973 Chevy C-10 1978 GMC Jimmy (2WD) - SOLD 1987 R10 twin turbo LS 1991 R3500 SRW CrewCab 1985 K5 diesel swapped project 1989 K5 2WD conversion w/ Vette susp Project Captkaos Customs 73-87chevytrucks.com

04-02-2003, 05:29 PM	#10
Low87 been here longer than Liz Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 2,437	Looks good! I hadn't thought about Easy Off. Thanks for the pics Chris. __________________ ~Greg~ Mac's Garage '87 SWB 6/8 drop "Piso" '08 CCSB Silverado DD the departed '89 GMC K5 Jimmy 4x4 "Rusty Nuts" '77 Chevy K5 Blazer 2wd '83 Chevy stepside "You get what you pay for" - Mike 'swervin ervin' Ervin

04-02-2003, 06:09 PM	#11
Captkaos www.73-87chevytrucks.com Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 6,935	I use Easy-Off to clean all greasy parts. You're welcome. __________________ Chris Lucas 1973 Chevy C-10 1978 GMC Jimmy (2WD) - SOLD 1987 R10 twin turbo LS 1991 R3500 SRW CrewCab 1985 K5 diesel swapped project 1989 K5 2WD conversion w/ Vette susp Project Captkaos Customs 73-87chevytrucks.com

04-02-2003, 06:24 PM	#12
Blue Beard Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 8,831	Be sure to use a mask for all the dust..... __________________ 1970 Chev CST 2003 Harley Fatboy 1975 Chevrolet Step Van 1956 Chev Bel Air 1977 Blazer 2WD For Sale $3000.00 1978 Blazer 2WD For Sale $7000.00 1978 Silverado 2005 Monte Carlo

04-02-2003, 06:35 PM	#13
MSL Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: So.Oregon Posts: 765	And eye protection.

04-02-2003, 06:52 PM	#14
Low87 been here longer than Liz Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 2,437	Thanks for the warnings guys, don't worry about that, I never forget my safety equipment! __________________ ~Greg~ Mac's Garage '87 SWB 6/8 drop "Piso" '08 CCSB Silverado DD the departed '89 GMC K5 Jimmy 4x4 "Rusty Nuts" '77 Chevy K5 Blazer 2wd '83 Chevy stepside "You get what you pay for" - Mike 'swervin ervin' Ervin

04-02-2003, 07:02 PM	#15
MSL Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: So.Oregon Posts: 765	In the past My father and I have always wire wheeld our frames and used a sealer then painted them. I dont remeber what the sealer was.



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04-03-2003, 08:59 AM	#16
bigblock73 yeller Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 13,824	Whatever you do, if you use POR-15...DO NOT get it on your skin...the stuff is damn near impossible to get off! -Jeff

04-03-2003, 09:49 AM	#17
Low87 been here longer than Liz Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 2,437	I took the wire wheel to it last night. Probably not going to use POR-15 since I couldn't get all the paint off. I guess I'll just have to find a rust inhibitor paint to use. __________________ ~Greg~ Mac's Garage '87 SWB 6/8 drop "Piso" '08 CCSB Silverado DD the departed '89 GMC K5 Jimmy 4x4 "Rusty Nuts" '77 Chevy K5 Blazer 2wd '83 Chevy stepside "You get what you pay for" - Mike 'swervin ervin' Ervin

04-03-2003, 06:22 PM	#18
Captkaos www.73-87chevytrucks.com Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 6,935	Use some Easy-off on it and a paint scraper. If you have already done that, get some paint stripper and put it on there. __________________ Chris Lucas 1973 Chevy C-10 1978 GMC Jimmy (2WD) - SOLD 1987 R10 twin turbo LS 1991 R3500 SRW CrewCab 1985 K5 diesel swapped project 1989 K5 2WD conversion w/ Vette susp Project Captkaos Customs 73-87chevytrucks.com

04-03-2003, 06:29 PM	#19
MSL Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: So.Oregon Posts: 765	If easy off doesnt work thats weird that stuff works awesome.

04-03-2003, 07:20 PM	#22
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	LMFAO!!!! __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

04-03-2003, 07:28 PM	#23
1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,399	hey Greg....

04-03-2003, 07:32 PM	#24
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	HAHAHAA!! Shut the Black Box up?? ok!! haha __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

04-03-2003, 07:38 PM	#25
1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,399	had to edit it so it is acceptable for the forum... ya know women and children present... DUH!

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