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Old 12-21-2015, 08:56 AM   #1
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73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

What is everyone doing to mount the DBW pedal in there 73-87 trucks?
I've seen Hart Rods killer throttle brackets for the 76-72 trucks and when I contacted him, he unfortunately doesn't make them for our trucks.
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Old 12-23-2015, 11:27 PM   #2
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

Depending on what year you have, I replaced my 2011 truck pedal for a Corvette pedal and used Hart Rod's plate and it works perfect! All I had to do was swap two pins in the plug for the pedal.
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Old 12-24-2015, 12:52 PM   #3
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

Are the mounting locations different for each pedal?
Sounds like I'll be getting a pedal from a 03-06 truck (Pedal is still being shipped with the motor so I can't be sure until I get it).
would love to get one of Hart Rod's adapters if it will work. I don't mind drilling if I need to, but as far as cutting or bending the bracket, I'm worried I won't be able to get it right.
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Old 12-24-2015, 04:41 PM   #4
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

The '04 DBW truck pedal I used had 2 bolt holes that lined up with the original pedal holes. Haven't had any issues using just two bolts.
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

There's a few people using the pedal from a late 90's 6.5 diesel on their Gen III setups. You have to swap a couple of wires in the harness but the pedal itself bolts right up in the 73-87(91) trucks. Here's a pretty good write up on it:

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Old 01-07-2016, 05:28 AM   #6
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

I used a '95 6.5 diesel pedal. bolted right in. had to repin the connector on a couple of wires IIRC. Looks completely stock
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Old 01-07-2016, 11:58 AM   #7
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There's a few people using the pedal from a late 90's 6.5 diesel on their Gen III setups. You have to swap a couple of wires in the harness but the pedal itself bolts right up in the 73-87(91) trucks. Here's a pretty good write up on it:

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I used a '95 6.5 diesel pedal. bolted right in. had to repin the connector on a couple of wires IIRC. Looks completely stock
Good info guys!!! I just added this to my DBW pedal thread so the 73-87 guys can get their conversion done as easily as possible, .
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Old 01-10-2016, 01:25 PM   #8
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

in my build somewhere i believe i got a pic of my dbw setup, i did some cutting and welding to make mine work, turned out pretty good
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

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Are the mounting locations different for each pedal?
Sounds like I'll be getting a pedal from a 03-06 truck (Pedal is still being shipped with the motor so I can't be sure until I get it).
would love to get one of Hart Rod's adapters if it will work. I don't mind drilling if I need to, but as far as cutting or bending the bracket, I'm worried I won't be able to get it right.
Cut and bend it for Your Foot!
These peddles (DBW) do not have much movement to reach 100% throttle
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:04 AM   #10
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

This is the pedal that came with my swap, what would be needed to bolt it up to my 87 Burb? Do I need to bend the pedal bracket or mod one of Hart Rod's brackets?
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

What about GEN IV pedals that don't make use of a TAC module?
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...3&page=1306-07 is a plastic pedal. post 302 shows what I did. Got the idea from glock35. Used the left hand original hole in the bottom pedal hole then drilled a new hole for top pedal hole.
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Old 05-20-2016, 02:40 PM   #13
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

About to buy the 98 6.5 diesel pedal, if I re-wire the connector like the above link says, this should work with a 2004 gen3 PCM and TAC module right?
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What about GEN IV pedals that don't make use of a TAC module?
What year is your truck and pedal?
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Old 06-01-2016, 10:46 AM   #15
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

Ok bought a new pedal from Rock Auto, instead of taking a chance in screwing up my existing harness, I'm going to see of I can find another pedal harness to buy and modify, just in case something gets messed up.
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

Bringing this post back from the dead.
I never did try to re-work my pedal/harness wiring. I was too afraid of screwing something up.
Has anyone been able to use one of Hart Rod's 67-72 brackets for a 73-87 truck with a little work?
I have my pedal working in my truck now, but it sits way too high up, and is un-comfortable to drive for a long time.
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

As I understand it some of the the 72's use the later bolt pattern of the 73-87. The rework is to just drill another hole in the bracket. I think the current ones have both hole sets.
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Bringing this post back from the dead.
I never did try to re-work my pedal/harness wiring. I was too afraid of screwing something up.
Has anyone been able to use one of Hart Rod's 67-72 brackets for a 73-87 truck with a little work?
I have my pedal working in my truck now, but it sits way too high up, and is un-comfortable to drive for a long time.
Nodnard76 , This may help. I used an 04 truck pedal . The o4 was a medal bracket . If I remember correctly you had one with a metal pedal arm like I used . I think I used 2 holes that were already there in my 82 to bolt it to the floor . I cut the metal arm off and drilled a hole in it and cut the 82 pedal arm off and inserted it into the 04 arm and set it in place to position it and welded it in place . It is a perfect fit for me . Also looks just like the oem pedal . Heres a couple pictures .
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Old 11-16-2017, 10:34 AM   #19
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Nodnard76 , This may help. I used an 04 truck pedal . The o4 was a medal bracket . If I remember correctly you had one with a metal pedal arm like I used . I think I used 2 holes that were already there in my 82 to bolt it to the floor . I cut the metal arm off and drilled a hole in it and cut the 82 pedal arm off and inserted it into the 04 arm and set it in place to position it and welded it in place . It is a perfect fit for me . Also looks just like the oem pedal . Heres a couple pictures .
That is a good idea, I have a question though as I know nothing about welding.
I am worried that welding my pedal will get the pedal too hot and mess up the electronics in the pedal. Do I not need to worry about that? If not I have a friend who can weld for me and I may end up doing what you did.
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That is a good idea, I have a question though as I know nothing about welding.
I am worried that welding my pedal will get the pedal too hot and mess up the electronics in the pedal. Do I not need to worry about that? If not I have a friend who can weld for me and I may end up doing what you did.
It was not a problem for me . It was not much more than a tack weld . Once done cool it with water . The electronics was far enough away it did not affect them .
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It was not a problem for me . It was not much more than a tack weld . Once done cool it with water . The electronics was far enough away it did not affect them .
Thank you! I just talked to my friend with the welder and we are going to do this next weekend just like you did. I will post back when I'm done.
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

hello to all. does anyone have the rewire instruction? i want to try this.
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hello to all. does anyone have the rewire instruction? i want to try this.
I am still looking into what would be the best solution. I currently have the 98 Diesel pedal, and am trying to decided if I should try and re-wire my harness to make it work or cut/weld my existing pedal.

The problem I keep running into, is whenever I find instructions on re-wiring the connector for the pedal, I keep finding other instructions that say to do it differently. I saw a video on youtube where someone only had to swap one wire and he claims his works with no problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX1X...index=2&t=102s


Then I find other instructions that say two wires need to be changed. (second post from the bottom)

https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...questions.html

Then I have read about doing it and swapping 3 wires. 4th post from the top

https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...91-chevys.html

I am not sure which I should trust.
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

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I am still looking into what would be the best solution. I currently have the 98 Diesel pedal, and am trying to decided if I should try and re-wire my harness to make it work or cut/weld my existing pedal.

The problem I keep running into, is whenever I find instructions on re-wiring the connector for the pedal, I keep finding other instructions that say to do it differently. I saw a video on youtube where someone only had to swap one wire and he claims his works with no problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX1X...index=2&t=102s


Then I find other instructions that say two wires need to be changed. (second post from the bottom)

https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...questions.html

Then I have read about doing it and swapping 3 wires. 4th post from the top

https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...91-chevys.html

I am not sure which I should trust.
I'm in the middle of this now, and my pedal isn't working lol. Did you ever figure it out?
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Re: 73-87 DBW pedal bracket?

I did. I removed the wire from pin "E" and moved it to pin "A".
I also had to cut a small notch in the connector to make it plug in.
The pedal now is perfect and I have been using it for a couple months now with no issues.
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